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From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Josh Boyer <jwboyer@kernel.org>, mcgrof@kernel.org
Cc: Harald Hoyer <harald@redhat.com>, Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>,
	Johannes Thumshirn <jthumshirn@suse.de>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
	ast@kernel.org, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	jeyu@kernel.org, Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
	Peter Jones <pjones@redhat.com>,
	takahiro.akashi@linaro.org, David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Linux Wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kalle Valo <kvalo@codeaurora.org>,
	Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com>,
	johannes.berg@intel.com, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
	Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	linux-security-module <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Linux-Kernel@Vger. Kernel. Org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	andresx7@gmail.com,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	luto@kernel.org, Justin Forbes <jforbes@redhat.com>,
	Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/6] firmware: differentiate between signed regulatory.db and other firmware
Date: Tue, 15 May 2018 08:43:39 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1526388219.3937.137.camel@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+5PVA7QU0k91zvoBTAFzG+unkh-=-s9Lhk3hn3eTJhHo4ovCQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 2018-05-15 at 08:32 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:

> One aspect that was always a concern to some is whether the firmware files
> were modified directly to have the signature attached to them.  That may
> run afoul of the "no modification" license that most blobs are shipped
> under.  Does IMA have the signatures for the files stored in xattrs or in
> some other detached manner?

They're stored as xattrs.  RPM has support for including file
signatures in the RPM header.

Mimi

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From: zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com (Mimi Zohar)
To: linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [PATCH 3/6] firmware: differentiate between signed regulatory.db and other firmware
Date: Tue, 15 May 2018 08:43:39 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1526388219.3937.137.camel@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+5PVA7QU0k91zvoBTAFzG+unkh-=-s9Lhk3hn3eTJhHo4ovCQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 2018-05-15 at 08:32 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:

> One aspect that was always a concern to some is whether the firmware files
> were modified directly to have the signature attached to them.  That may
> run afoul of the "no modification" license that most blobs are shipped
> under.  Does IMA have the signatures for the files stored in xattrs or in
> some other detached manner?

They're stored as xattrs. ?RPM has support for including file
signatures in the RPM header.

Mimi

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From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Josh Boyer <jwboyer@kernel.org>, mcgrof@kernel.org
Cc: Harald Hoyer <harald@redhat.com>, Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>,
	Johannes Thumshirn <jthumshirn@suse.de>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
	ast@kernel.org, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	jeyu@kernel.org, Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
	Peter Jones <pjones@redhat.com>,
	takahiro.akashi@linaro.org, David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Linux Wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kalle Valo <kvalo@codeaurora.org>,
	Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com>,
	johannes.berg@intel.com, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
	Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	linux-security-module <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Linux-Kernel@Vger. Kernel. Org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	andresx7@gmail.com,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	luto@kernel.org, Justin Forbes <jforbes@redhat.com>,
	Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/6] firmware: differentiate between signed regulatory.db and other firmware
Date: Tue, 15 May 2018 08:43:39 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1526388219.3937.137.camel@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+5PVA7QU0k91zvoBTAFzG+unkh-=-s9Lhk3hn3eTJhHo4ovCQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 2018-05-15 at 08:32 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:

> One aspect that was always a concern to some is whether the firmware files
> were modified directly to have the signature attached to them.  That may
> run afoul of the "no modification" license that most blobs are shipped
> under.  Does IMA have the signatures for the files stored in xattrs or in
> some other detached manner?

They're stored as xattrs.  RPM has support for including file
signatures in the RPM header.

Mimi

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-15 12:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-01 13:48 [PATCH 0/6] firmware: kernel signature verification Mimi Zohar
2018-05-01 13:48 ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-01 13:48 ` [PATCH 1/6] firmware: permit LSMs and IMA to fail firmware sysfs fallback loading Mimi Zohar
2018-05-01 13:48   ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-04  0:02   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-05-04  0:02     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-05-04  0:36     ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-04  0:36       ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-04  0:36       ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-01 13:48 ` [PATCH 2/6] ima: prevent sysfs fallback firmware loading Mimi Zohar
2018-05-01 13:48   ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-04  0:06   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-05-04  0:06     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-05-01 13:48 ` [PATCH 3/6] firmware: differentiate between signed regulatory.db and other firmware Mimi Zohar
2018-05-01 13:48   ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-04  0:07   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-05-04  0:07     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-05-04  0:24     ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-04  0:24       ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-04  0:24       ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-08 17:34       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-05-08 17:34         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-05-08 17:34         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-05-09 11:30         ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-09 11:30           ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-09 11:30           ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-09 19:15           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-05-09 19:15             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-05-09 19:15             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-05-09 19:57             ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-09 19:57               ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-09 19:57               ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-09 21:22               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-05-09 21:22                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-05-09 21:22                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-05-09 22:06                 ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-09 22:06                   ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-09 22:06                   ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-09 23:48                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-05-09 23:48                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-05-09 23:48                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-05-10  2:00                     ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-10  2:00                       ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-10  2:00                       ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-10 23:26                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-05-10 23:26                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-05-10 23:26                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-05-11  5:00                         ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-11  5:00                           ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-11  5:00                           ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-11 21:52                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-05-11 21:52                             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-05-11 21:52                             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-05-14 12:58                             ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-14 12:58                               ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-14 12:58                               ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-14 19:28                               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-05-14 19:28                                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-05-14 19:28                                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-05-15  2:02                                 ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-15  2:02                                   ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-15  2:02                                   ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-15  3:26                                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-05-15  3:26                                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-05-15  3:26                                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-05-15 12:32                                     ` Josh Boyer
2018-05-15 12:32                                       ` Josh Boyer
2018-05-15 12:43                                       ` Mimi Zohar [this message]
2018-05-15 12:43                                         ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-15 12:43                                         ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-01 13:48 ` [PATCH 4/6] ima: coordinate with signed regulatory.db Mimi Zohar
2018-05-01 13:48   ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-01 13:48 ` [PATCH 5/6] ima: verify kernel firmware signatures when using a preallocated buffer Mimi Zohar
2018-05-01 13:48   ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-01 13:48 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] ima: prevent loading firmware into a pre-allocated buffer Mimi Zohar
2018-05-01 13:48   ` Mimi Zohar
2018-05-04  0:10   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-05-04  0:10     ` Luis R. Rodriguez

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