From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: =?utf-8?q?=3CBATV+97d4cf42843d34639730+5387+infradead=2Eorg+d?= =?utf-8?q?wmw2=40twosheds=2Esrs=2Einfradead=2Eorg=3E?= Received: from twosheds.infradead.org ([2001:8b0:10b:1:21d:7dff:fe04:dbe2]) by Galois.linutronix.de with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from =?utf-8?q?=3CBATV+97d4cf42843d34639730+5387+infradea?= =?utf-8?q?d=2Eorg+dwmw2=40twosheds=2Esrs=2Einfradead=2Eorg=3E=29?= id 1fLtSN-0003Rc-7y for speck@linutronix.de; Thu, 24 May 2018 18:51:15 +0200 Received: from [2001:8b0:10b:1::b8f] by twosheds.infradead.org with esmtpsa (Exim 4.90_1 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1fLtSM-0003pk-IE for speck@linutronix.de; Thu, 24 May 2018 16:51:14 +0000 Message-ID: <1527180674.8186.162.camel@infradead.org> Subject: [MODERATED] Re: L1D-Fault KVM mitigation From: David Woodhouse In-Reply-To: References: <20180424090630.wlghmrpasn7v7wbn@suse.de> <20180424093537.GC4064@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <1524563292.8691.38.camel@infradead.org> <20180424110445.GU4043@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <1527068745.8186.89.camel@infradead.org> <20180524094526.GE12198@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <1527177599.8186.147.camel@infradead.org> Date: Thu, 24 May 2018 17:51:14 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit To: speck@linutronix.de List-ID: On Thu, 2018-05-24 at 09:35 -0700, speck for Linus Torvalds wrote: > > The only case I see making up for it is when vm entry/exit are so rare  > (because you don't actually do much virtualization at all) that you're  > willing to make them much much slower just to keep HT for the 95% of the  > time when you're not doing any virtualization at all. With decently designed hardware and SR-IOV passthrough for all I/O, and posted interrupts...