From: Ang, Chee Hong <chee.hong.ang@intel.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH v1] mmc: dwmmc: Enable small delay before returning error
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2019 07:10:35 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1551769834.18377.4.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <647e5b79-ddce-73f3-da72-142bc4d76bd2@denx.de>
On Fri, 2019-02-22 at 17:02 +0100, Marek Vasut wrote:
> On 2/22/19 4:19 PM, Ang, Chee Hong wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 2019-02-21 at 11:06 +0100, Marek Vasut wrote:
> > >
> > > On 2/20/19 2:57 PM, Ang, Chee Hong wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 2019-02-18 at 21:38 +0100, Marek Vasut wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2/18/19 3:51 PM, Ang, Chee Hong wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, 2019-02-18 at 12:57 +0100, Marek Vasut wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 2/18/19 5:16 AM, chee.hong.ang at intel.com wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > From: "Ang, Chee Hong" <chee.hong.ang@intel.com>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 'SET_BLOCKLEN' may occasionally fail on first attempt.
> > > > > > > Why ?
> > > > > > This is part of the workaround of mmc driver which is
> > > > > > enabled
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > 'CONFIG_MMC_QUIRKS' config.
> > > > > > https://github.com/u-boot/u-boot/blob/dbe70c7d4e3d5c705a98d
> > > > > > 8295
> > > > > > 2e05
> > > > > > a591
> > > > > > efd0683/drivers/mmc/mmc.c#L272
> > > > > OK, let's take a step back. What problem do you observe, that
> > > > > you're
> > > > > trying to fix ?
> > > > See my detail explanation below.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This patch enable a small delay in dwmci_send_cmd() on
> > > > > > > > busy, I/O or CRC error to allow the MMC controller
> > > > > > > > recovers
> > > > > > > > from the failure/error on subsequent retries.
> > > > > > > Why 100 uS ?
> > > > > > This is a good question. Perhaps the driver's authors can
> > > > > > explain
> > > > > > this.
> > > > > > The driver delay 100us after dwmci_send_cmd() success with
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > command
> > > > > > sent. But it never delay 100us whenever mmc controller
> > > > > > response
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > command sent with I/O or CRC errors. MMC drivers expect the
> > > > > > first
> > > > > > 'SET_BLOCKEN' command issued by dwmci_send_cmd() may fail
> > > > > > intermittently so it will retry up to 4 times before it
> > > > > > gave up
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > return error. Without this 100us delay after error
> > > > > > response,
> > > > > > 'SET_BLOCKEN' may sometime fail in 4 attempts in a row.
> > > > > > Therefore,
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > encountered intermittent failure in loading u-boot (SSBL)
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > MMC.
> > > > > Can you be more specific about the failure you saw ?
> > > > Here are the steps for booting u-boot (SSBL) from MMC:
> > > >
> > > > 1) SPL (FSBL) get loaded to OCRAM
> > > > 2) SPL try to load uboot as SSBL from MMC
> > > > 3) SPL issue 'SET_BLOCKEN' to MMC controller
> > > s/SPL/MMC framework via DWMMC driver/
> > Yes. It is done in drivers/mmc/mmc.c (Line 276)
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 4) If MMC controller response with error continue to step 5
> > > > else go
> > > > to
> > > > step 7
> > > > 5) If is less than 4 attempts go to step 3 else continue to
> > > > step 6
> > > > 6) Indicate to user there was an error loading uboot as SSBL
> > > > from
> > > > MMC
> > > > and stop here
> > > > 7) Send command to read blocks of data from MMC
> > > > 8) uboot successfully loaded to DDR memory
> > > > 9) SPL jumps to uboot and continue the boot flow.
> > > >
> > > > So this patch actually introduce a small delay at step 4.
> > > > Without
> > > > this
> > > > small delay, step 4 might sometime fail in all 4 attempts to
> > > > issue
> > > > the
> > > > 'SET_BLOCKEN' command to MMC controller.
> > > Isn't what you observe here some sort of timeout which you need
> > > to
> > > respect when the card rejects a command ? If so, such timeout
> > > should
> > > be
> > > described in either of the SD or MMC specification and it should
> > > be
> > > in
> > > the MMC framework core instead of a driver.
> > I don't have chance to test other MMC drivers and I am not sure
> > other
> > MMC drivers need such small delay for next retry if the card reject
> > this command.
> Does the SD or MMC JEDEC spec say something about such delay?
I checked the SD/MMC JEDEC. Nothing about this delay is mentioned in
the spec.
>
> >
> > This DW MMC driver already enforce a small delay even the
> > command is success, so this makes me think that this 'time out'
> > issue
> > is only specific to this DW MMC driver.
> So why is there that 100 uS delay ? Does the Linux DWMMC driver have
> such a delay too?
Linux DWMMC has only the delay for card detection and I think is quite
common because this is needed to make sure the memory card is properly
inserted before any operations can be started.
>
> >
> > Is it necessary to 'enforce' this small delay in common MMC
> > framework
> > (affecting all other MMC drivers as well) as shown below:
> >
> > drivers/mmc/mmc.c
> >
> > #ifdef CONFIG_MMC_QUIRKS
> > if (err && (mmc->quirks & MMC_QUIRK_RETRY_SET_BLOCKLEN)) {
> > int retries = 4;
> > /*
> > * It has been seen that SET_BLOCKLEN may fail on the
> > first
> > * attempt, let's try a few more time
> > */
> > do {
> > err = mmc_send_cmd(mmc, &cmd, NULL);
> > if (!err)
> > break;
> > + /* Enforce small delay before retry */
> > + udelay(100);
> > } while (retries--);
> > }
> > #endif
>
> Expanding the CC to other DWMMC users, maybe their datasheets contain
> something about the 100 uS delay.
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Note that this failure is
> > > > intermittent. If it fails at step 3 and there is no small delay
> > > > in
> > > > step
> > > > 4, it will most likely fail in subsequent attempts.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can we rather detect whether the controller recovered by
> > > > > > > polling
> > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > bit?
> > > > > > Hmmm...I can take a look at the databook of this controller
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > dig
> > > > > > further. Probably this is the limitation of the controller
> > > > > > itself.
> > > > > > The
> > > > > > mmc driver code which introduce 100us delay after every
> > > > > > command
> > > > > > sent in
> > > > > > dwmci_send_cmd() looks iffy.
> > > > > If you have access to it, please do.
> > > > Unfortunately, I can't find any registers I can poll for the
> > > > status
> > > > of
> > > > the readiness of the controller from DesignWare storage
> > > > controller
> > > > databook.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > btw do you have the same problem if you disable caches ?
> > > > The error happen while SPL trying to load uboot as SSBL from
> > > > MMC
> > > > into
> > > > DDR memory.At this point, the caches are disabled.
> > > I-Cache is enabled in SPL, D-cache _might_ be too.
> > >
> > > Do you get this error after cold boot too ?
> > Yes. It happened after cold boot too.
> Hmmmm, try applying
>
> [PATCH V2] ARM: socfpga: Clear PL310 early in SPL
>
> I wonder if this might be what you're hitting.
Nope. This patch only apply to Aaria 10 and this problem is found on
Stratix 10 platform.
>
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Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-02-18 4:16 [U-Boot] [PATCH v1] mmc: dwmmc: Enable small delay before returning error chee.hong.ang at intel.com
2019-02-18 11:57 ` Marek Vasut
2019-02-18 14:51 ` Ang, Chee Hong
2019-02-18 20:38 ` Marek Vasut
2019-02-20 13:57 ` Ang, Chee Hong
2019-02-21 10:06 ` Marek Vasut
2019-02-22 15:19 ` Ang, Chee Hong
2019-02-22 16:02 ` Marek Vasut
2019-03-05 7:10 ` Ang, Chee Hong [this message]
2019-03-05 10:52 ` Marek Vasut
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