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From: Dmitry Bogatov <KAction@debian.org>
To: Jason Zaman <jason@perfinion.com>, 929063@bugs.debian.org
Cc: Laurent Bigonville <bigon@debian.org>,
	selinux@vger.kernel.org, kaction@debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#929063: SELinux integration in sysVinit
Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 03:40:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1559104433.284129.14732@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190524130015.GA25786@baraddur.perfinion.com>


[ Sorry, if I messed quotation. It is complex ]

[2019-05-24 21:00] Jason Zaman <jason@perfinion.com>

> > > There is currently some discussion at [0] about SELinux
> > > integration in sysVinit and the fact that somebody wants to
> > > delegate the loading of the policy to an other binary than PID1.
> > > 
> > > Has somebody a remark or an objection to that proposal?
> > 
> > I object too. There is a *huge* change in functionality. Originally if
> > you boot with SELinux enforcing, there are only two things that can
> > happen. Either you end up with the policy loaded or the machine halts.
> > 
> > In the new patch, an attacker can just chmod -x /sbin/selinux-check then
> > next boot there will be no selinux enabled.
> > 
> > if (access(SELINUX_CHECK, X_OK) != 0) fails, the machine will continue
> > to boot without SELinux enabled. There is no difference between a user
> > without /sbin/selinux-check on purpose and an attacker just chmod -x'd
> > the tool.
> > 
> > SELinux does not protect /sbin anywhere near as much as /etc/selinux
> > (and doing that would probably be impossible). You'd need to check if
> > selinux is enabled and enforcing before skipping the loading ... which
> > is done by calling is_selinux_enabled() which needs linking to
> > libselinux. The important part of the original design is not
> > selinux_init_load_policy(), its is_selinux_enabled().

How does it come that attacker can just "chmod -x /sbin/selinux-check"?
Aren't there supposed to be SELinux rule, preventing attacker from doing
this, even if he cracked root process?

Okay, this patch should be accompanied with patch to src:refpolicy,
correct?
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-05-29  4:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-24 11:17 SELinux integration in sysVinit Laurent Bigonville
2019-05-24 12:55 ` Jason Zaman
2019-05-24 13:00   ` Jason Zaman
2019-05-24 13:40     ` Stephen Smalley
2019-05-29  3:40     ` Bug#929063: " Dmitry Bogatov
2019-05-29  3:40     ` Dmitry Bogatov [this message]
2019-05-29  3:40     ` Dmitry Bogatov

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