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From: Paul Cercueil <paul@crapouillou.net>
To: "Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>
Cc: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	od@zcrc.me, linux-pwm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/7] pwm: jz4740: Make PWM start with the active part
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 22:50:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1565643001.2007.2@crapouillou.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190812055515.ne7o4ujchfeubjid@pengutronix.de>



Le lun. 12 août 2019 à 7:55, Uwe =?iso-8859-1?q?Kleine-K=F6nig?= 
<u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de> a écrit :
> On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 07:33:24PM +0200, Paul Cercueil wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>  Le ven. 9 août 2019 à 19:10, Uwe =?iso-8859-1?q?Kleine-K=F6nig?=
>>  <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de> a écrit :
>>  > On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 02:30:30PM +0200, Paul Cercueil wrote:
>>  > >  The PWM will always start with the inactive part. To counter 
>> that,
>>  > >  when PWM is enabled we switch the configured polarity, and use
>>  > >  'period - duty + 1' as the real duty.
>>  >
>>  > Where does the + 1 come from? This looks wrong. (So if duty=0 is
>>  > requested you use duty = period + 1?)
>> 
>>  You'd never request duty == 0, would you?
>> 
>>  Your duty must always be in the inclusive range [1, period]
>>  (hardware values, not ns). A duty of 0 is a hardware fault
>>  (on the jz4740 it is).
> 
> From the PWM framework's POV duty cycle = 0 is perfectly valid. 
> Similar
> to duty == period. Not supporting dutz cycle 0 is another limitation 
> of
> your PWM that should be documented.
> 
> For actual use cases of duty cycle = 0 see drivers/hwmon/pwm-fan.c or
> drivers/leds/leds-pwm.c.

Perfectly valid for the PWM framework, maybe; but what is the expected
output then? A constant inactive state? Then I guess I can just disable
the PWM output in the driver when configured with duty == 0.


>>  If you request duty == 1 (the minimum), then the new duty is equal
>>  to (period - 1 + 1) == period, which is the maximum of your range.
>> 
>>  If you request duty == period (the maximum), then the new duty
>>  calculated is equal to (period - period + 1) == 1, which is the
>>  minimum of your range.
>> 
>> 
>>  > >
>>  > >  Signed-off-by: Paul Cercueil <paul@crapouillou.net>
>>  > >  ---
>>  > >   drivers/pwm/pwm-jz4740.c | 22 +++++++++++++---------
>>  > >   1 file changed, 13 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
>>  > >
>>  > >  diff --git a/drivers/pwm/pwm-jz4740.c 
>> b/drivers/pwm/pwm-jz4740.c
>>  > >  index 85e2110aae4f..8df898429d47 100644
>>  > >  --- a/drivers/pwm/pwm-jz4740.c
>>  > >  +++ b/drivers/pwm/pwm-jz4740.c
>>  > >  @@ -121,6 +121,7 @@ static int jz4740_pwm_apply(struct pwm_chip
>>  > > *chip, struct pwm_device *pwm,
>>  > >   		   *parent_clk = clk_get_parent(clk);
>>  > >   	unsigned long rate, parent_rate, period, duty;
>>  > >   	unsigned long long tmp;
>>  > >  +	bool polarity_inversed;
>>  > >   	int ret;
>>  > >
>>  > >   	parent_rate = clk_get_rate(parent_clk);
>>  > >  @@ -183,24 +184,27 @@ static int jz4740_pwm_apply(struct 
>> pwm_chip
>>  > > *chip, struct pwm_device *pwm,
>>  > >   	/* Reset counter to 0 */
>>  > >   	regmap_write(jz4740->map, TCU_REG_TCNTc(pwm->hwpwm), 0);
>>  > >
>>  > >  -	/* Set duty */
>>  > >  -	regmap_write(jz4740->map, TCU_REG_TDHRc(pwm->hwpwm), duty);
>>  > >  -
>>  > >   	/* Set period */
>>  > >   	regmap_write(jz4740->map, TCU_REG_TDFRc(pwm->hwpwm), period);
>>  > >
>>  > >  +	/*
>>  > >  +	 * The PWM will always start with the inactive part. To 
>> counter that,
>>  > >  +	 * when PWM is enabled we switch the configured polarity, 
>> and use
>>  > >  +	 * 'period - duty + 1' as the real duty.
>>  > >  +	 */
>>  > >  +
>>  > >  +	/* Set duty */
>>  > >  +	regmap_write(jz4740->map, TCU_REG_TDHRc(pwm->hwpwm), period 
>> - duty + 1);
>>  > >  +
>>  >
>>  > Before you set duty first, then period, now you do it the other 
>> way
>>  > round. Is there a good reason?
>> 
>>  To move it below the comment that explains why we use 'period - 
>> duty + 1'.
>> 
>>  We modify that line anyway, so it's not like it makes the patch 
>> much more
>>  verbose.
> 
> It doesn't make it more verbose, but that's not the background of my
> question. For most(?) PWM implementation the order of hardware 
> accesses
> matters and introducing such a difference as an unneeded side effect
> isn't optimal.

There's no side effect. The PWM is disabled when reconfigured.


> Why not add the comment above the line that already used to set the 
> duty
> in hardware?

I thought it made sense to have the two parts of the trick closer 
together
in the code, below the comment, so that it's clearer what it does.


>>  > >   	/* Set polarity */
>>  > >  -	switch (state->polarity) {
>>  > >  -	case PWM_POLARITY_NORMAL:
>>  > >  +	polarity_inversed = state->polarity == PWM_POLARITY_INVERSED;
>>  > >  +	if (!polarity_inversed ^ state->enabled)
>>  >
>>  > Why does state->enabled suddenly matter here?
>> 
>>  The pin stay inactive when the PWM is disabled, but the level of the
>>  inactive state depends on the polarity of the pin. So we need to 
>> switch
>>  the polarity only when the PWM is enabled.
> 
> After some thought I got that. When knowing this, this is already
> mentioned in the comment you introduced as you write about enabled 
> PWMs
> only. Maybe it's just me, but mentioning that case more explicit would
> have helped me. Something like:
> 
> 	/*
> 	 * The hardware always starts a period with the inactive part.
> 	 * So invert polarity and duty cycle to yield the output that is
> 	 * expected by the PWM framework and its users. This inversion
> 	 * must not be done for a disabled PWM however because otherwise
> 	 * it outputs a constant active level.
> 	 */

Ok.


> 
> Best regards
> Uwe
> 
> --
> Pengutronix e.K.                           | Uwe Kleine-König        
>     |
> Industrial Linux Solutions                 | 
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  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-12 20:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-09 12:30 [PATCH 0/7] pwm: jz4740: Driver update Paul Cercueil
2019-08-09 12:30 ` [PATCH 1/7] pwm: jz4740: Obtain regmap from parent node Paul Cercueil
2019-08-09 16:51   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2019-08-09 17:04     ` Paul Cercueil
2019-08-12  6:18       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2019-08-09 12:30 ` [PATCH 2/7] pwm: jz4740: Use clocks from TCU driver Paul Cercueil
2019-08-09 16:55   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2019-08-09 12:30 ` [PATCH 3/7] pwm: jz4740: Drop dependency on MACH_INGENIC Paul Cercueil
2019-08-09 16:41   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2019-08-09 21:40     ` Paul Cercueil
2019-08-12  6:09       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2019-08-09 12:30 ` [PATCH 4/7] pwm: jz4740: Improve algorithm of clock calculation Paul Cercueil
2019-08-09 17:05   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2019-08-09 17:14     ` Paul Cercueil
2019-08-12  6:15       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2019-08-12 20:43         ` Paul Cercueil
2019-08-12 21:48           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2019-08-12 22:16             ` Paul Cercueil
2019-08-13  5:27               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2019-08-13 11:01                 ` Paul Cercueil
2019-08-13 12:33                   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2019-08-13 12:47                     ` Paul Cercueil
2019-08-13 14:09                       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2019-08-14 16:10                         ` Paul Cercueil
2019-08-14 17:32                           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2019-10-21 12:47                             ` Paul Cercueil
2020-02-12  7:29                               ` About rounding in the clk framework [Was: Re: [PATCH 4/7] pwm: jz4740: Improve algorithm of clock calculation] Uwe Kleine-König
2020-04-14  9:24                                 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2020-12-21 13:57                                   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2019-08-12 22:25             ` [PATCH 4/7] pwm: jz4740: Improve algorithm of clock calculation Paul Cercueil
2019-08-09 12:30 ` [PATCH 5/7] pwm: jz4740: Allow selection of PWM channels 0 and 1 Paul Cercueil
2019-08-09 12:30 ` [PATCH 6/7] pwm: jz4740: Make PWM start with the active part Paul Cercueil
2019-08-09 17:10   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2019-08-09 17:33     ` Paul Cercueil
2019-08-12  5:55       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2019-08-12 20:50         ` Paul Cercueil [this message]
2019-08-12 21:58           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2019-09-20 22:52             ` Thierry Reding
2019-08-09 12:30 ` [PATCH 7/7] pwm: jz4740: document known limitations Paul Cercueil

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