From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Steven Sistare <steven.sistare@oracle.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Anthony Yznaga <anthony.yznaga@oracle.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] madvise MADV_DOEXEC
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2020 08:42:50 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1596469370.29091.13.camel@HansenPartnership.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877dufvje9.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>
On Mon, 2020-08-03 at 10:28 -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
[...]
> What is wrong with live migration between one qemu process and
> another qemu process on the same machine not work for this use case?
>
> Just reusing live migration would seem to be the simplest path of
> all, as the code is already implemented. Further if something goes
> wrong with the live migration you can fallback to the existing
> process. With exec there is no fallback if the new version does not
> properly support the handoff protocol of the old version.
Actually, could I ask this another way: the other patch set you sent to
the KVM list was to snapshot the VM to a PKRAM capsule preserved across
kexec using zero copy for extremely fast save/restore. The original
idea was to use this as part of a CRIU based snapshot, kexec to new
system, restore. However, why can't you do a local snapshot, restart
qemu, restore using the PKRAM capsule to achieve exactly the same as
MADV_DOEXEC does but using a system that's easy to reason about? It
may be slightly slower, but I think we're still talking milliseconds.
James
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-08-03 15:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-07-27 17:11 [RFC PATCH 0/5] madvise MADV_DOEXEC Anthony Yznaga
2020-07-27 17:07 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-07-27 18:00 ` Steven Sistare
2020-07-28 13:40 ` Christian Brauner
2020-07-27 17:11 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] elf: reintroduce using MAP_FIXED_NOREPLACE for elf executable mappings Anthony Yznaga
2020-07-27 17:11 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] mm: do not assume only the stack vma exists in setup_arg_pages() Anthony Yznaga
2020-07-27 17:11 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] mm: introduce VM_EXEC_KEEP Anthony Yznaga
2020-07-28 13:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-07-28 17:44 ` Anthony Yznaga
2020-07-29 13:52 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2020-07-29 23:20 ` Anthony Yznaga
2020-07-27 17:11 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] exec, elf: require opt-in for accepting preserved mem Anthony Yznaga
2020-07-27 17:11 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] mm: introduce MADV_DOEXEC Anthony Yznaga
2020-07-28 13:22 ` Kirill Tkhai
2020-07-28 14:06 ` Steven Sistare
2020-07-28 11:34 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] madvise MADV_DOEXEC Kirill Tkhai
2020-07-28 17:28 ` Anthony Yznaga
2020-07-28 14:23 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-28 14:30 ` Steven Sistare
2020-07-30 15:22 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-30 15:27 ` Christian Brauner
2020-07-30 15:34 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-30 15:54 ` Christian Brauner
2020-07-31 9:12 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-07-31 9:12 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-07-30 15:59 ` Steven Sistare
2020-07-30 17:12 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-30 17:35 ` Steven Sistare
2020-07-30 17:49 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-30 18:27 ` Steven Sistare
2020-07-30 21:58 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-07-31 14:57 ` Steven Sistare
2020-07-31 15:27 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-31 16:11 ` Steven Sistare
2020-07-31 16:56 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-07-31 17:15 ` Steven Sistare
2020-07-31 17:48 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-07-31 17:55 ` Steven Sistare
2020-08-03 8:32 ` David Laight
2020-08-03 8:32 ` David Laight
2020-07-31 17:23 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-08-03 15:28 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-08-03 15:42 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2020-08-03 20:03 ` Steven Sistare
2020-08-04 8:44 ` David Laight
2020-08-04 8:44 ` David Laight
2020-08-04 11:13 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-08-04 11:13 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-08-03 19:29 ` Steven Sistare
2020-07-31 19:41 ` Steven Sistare
2021-07-08 9:52 ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-07-08 12:48 ` Steven Sistare
2021-07-12 1:05 ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-07-12 1:30 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-07-13 0:57 ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-08-13 19:49 ` Khalid Aziz
2021-08-14 20:07 ` David Laight
2021-08-16 0:26 ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-08-16 8:07 ` David Laight
2021-08-16 6:54 ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-08-16 8:02 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-08-16 12:07 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-08-16 12:20 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-08-16 12:42 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-08-16 12:46 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-08-16 13:24 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-08-16 13:32 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-08-16 14:10 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-08-16 14:27 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-08-16 14:33 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-08-16 14:40 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-08-16 15:01 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-08-16 15:59 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-08-16 16:06 ` Khalid Aziz
2021-08-16 16:15 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-08-16 16:13 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-08-16 12:27 ` [private] " David Hildenbrand
2021-08-16 12:30 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-08-17 0:47 ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-08-17 0:55 ` Matthew Wilcox
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