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From: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
To: "Chautru, Nicolas" <nicolas.chautru@intel.com>,
	Maxime Coquelin <maxime.coquelin@redhat.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"gakhil@marvell.com" <gakhil@marvell.com>,
	"hemant.agrawal@nxp.com" <hemant.agrawal@nxp.com>,
	"Vargas, Hernan" <hernan.vargas@intel.com>,
	Tom Rix <trix@redhat.com>
Cc: "mdr@ashroe.eu" <mdr@ashroe.eu>,
	"Richardson, Bruce" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	"david.marchand@redhat.com" <david.marchand@redhat.com>,
	"stephen@networkplumber.org" <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 00/10] baseband/acc200
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2022 12:35:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <16306674.geO5KgaWL5@thomas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e1834a23-b559-5b32-5260-05169a8c959d@redhat.com>

06/09/2022 14:51, Tom Rix:
> On 9/1/22 1:34 PM, Chautru, Nicolas wrote:
> > From: Tom Rix <trix@redhat.com>
> >> On 8/31/22 6:26 PM, Chautru, Nicolas wrote:
> >>> From: Tom Rix <trix@redhat.com>
> >>>> On 8/31/22 3:37 PM, Chautru, Nicolas wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Comparing ACC200 & ACC100 header files, I understand ACC200 is
> >>>>>>>>> an evolution of the ACC10x family. The FEC bits are really
> >>>>>>>>> close,
> >>>>>>>>> ACC200 main addition seems to be FFT acceleration which could be
> >>>>>>>>> handled in ACC10x driver based on device ID.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I think both drivers have to be merged in order to avoid code
> >>>>>>>>> duplication. That's how other families of devices (e.g. i40e)
> >>>>>>>>> are handled.
> >>>>>>>> I haven't seen your reply on this point.
> >>>>>>>> Do you confirm you are working on a single driver for ACC family
> >>>>>>>> in order to avoid code duplication?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The implementation is based on distinct ACC100 and ACC200 drivers.
> >>>>>>> The 2
> >>>>>> devices are fundamentally different generation, processes and IP.
> >>>>>>> MountBryce is an eASIC device over PCIe while ACC200 is an
> >>>>>>> integrated
> >>>>>> accelerator on Xeon CPU.
> >>>>>>> The actual implementation are not the same, underlying IP are all
> >>>>>>> distinct
> >>>>>> even if many of the descriptor format have similarities.
> >>>>>>> The actual capabilities of the acceleration are different and/or new.
> >>>>>>> The workaround and silicon errata are also different causing
> >>>>>>> different
> >>>>>> limitation and implementation in the driver (see the serie with
> >>>>>> ongoing changes for ACC100 in parallel).
> >>>>>>> This is fundamentally distinct from ACC101 which was a derivative
> >>>>>>> product
> >>>>>> from ACC100 and where it made sense to share implementation
> >> between
> >>>>>> ACC100 and ACC101.
> >>>>>>> So in a nutshell these 2 devices and drivers are 2 different
> >>>>>>> beasts and the
> >>>>>> intention is to keep them intentionally separate as in the serie.
> >>>>>>> Let me know if unclear, thanks!
> >>>>>> Nic,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I used a similarity checker to compare acc100 and acc200
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://dickgrune.com/Programs/similarity_tester/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> l=simum.log
> >>>>>> if [ -f $l ]; then
> >>>>>>         rm $l
> >>>>>> fi
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> sim_c -s -R -o$l -R -p -P -a .
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> There results are
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ./acc200/acc200_pf_enum.h consists for 100 % of
> >>>>>> ./acc100/acc100_pf_enum.h material ./acc100/acc100_pf_enum.h
> >>>>>> consists for 98 % of ./acc200/acc200_pf_enum.h material
> >>>>>> ./acc100/rte_acc100_pmd.h consists for
> >>>>>> 98 % of ./acc200/acc200_pmd.h material ./acc200/acc200_vf_enum.h
> >>>>>> consists for 95 % of ./acc100/acc100_pf_enum.h material
> >>>>>> ./acc200/acc200_pmd.h consists for 92 % of
> >>>>>> ./acc100/rte_acc100_pmd.h material ./acc200/rte_acc200_cfg.h
> >>>>>> consists for 92 % of ./acc100/rte_acc100_cfg.h material
> >>>>>> ./acc100/rte_acc100_pmd.c consists for 87 % of
> >>>>>> ./acc200/rte_acc200_pmd.c material ./acc100/acc100_vf_enum.h
> >>>>>> consists for
> >>>>>> 80 % of ./acc200/acc200_pf_enum.h material
> >>>>>> ./acc200/rte_acc200_pmd.c consists for 78 % of
> >>>>>> ./acc100/rte_acc100_pmd.c material ./acc100/rte_acc100_cfg.h
> >>>>>> consists for 75 % of ./acc200/rte_acc200_cfg.h material
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Spot checking the first *pf_enum.h at 100%, these are the devices'
> >>>>>> registers, they are the same.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I raised this similarity issue with 100 vs 101.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Having multiple copies is difficult to support and should be avoided.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> For the end user, they should have to use only one driver.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> There are really different IP and do not have the same interface
> >>>>> (PCIe/DDR vs
> >>>> integrated) and there is big serie of changes which are specific to
> >>>> ACC100 coming in parallel. Any workaround, optimization would be
> >> different.
> >>>>> I agree that for the coming serie of integrated accelerator we will
> >>>>> use a
> >>>> unified driver approach but for that very case that would be quite
> >>>> messy to artificially put them within the same PMD.
> >>>>
> >>>> How is the IP different when 100% of the registers are the same ?
> >>>>
> >>> These are 2 different HW aspects. The base toplevel configuration registers
> >> are kept similar on purpose but the underlying IP are totally different design
> >> and implementation.
> >>> Even the registers have differences but not visible here, the actual RDL file
> >> would define more specifically these registers bitfields and implementation
> >> including which ones are not implemented (but that is proprietary
> >> information), and at bbdev level the interface is not some much register
> >> based than processing based on data from DMA.
> >>> Basically even if there was a common driver, all these would be duplicated
> >> and they are indeed different IP (including different vendors)..
> >>> But I agree with the general intent and to have a common driver for the
> >> integrated driver serie (ACC200, ACC300...) now that we are moving away
> >> from PCIe/DDR lookaside acceleration and eASIC/FPGA implementation
> >> (ACC100/AC101).
> >>
> >> Looking a little deeper, at how the driver is lays out some of its bitfields and
> >> private data by reviewing the
> >>
> >> ./acc200/acc200_pmd.h consists for 92 % of ./acc100/rte_acc100_pmd.h
> >>
> >> There are some minor changes to existing reserved bitfields.
> >> A new structure for fft.
> >> The acc200_device, the private data for the driver, is an exact copy of
> >> acc100_device.
> >>
> >> acc200_pmd.h is the superset and could be used with little changes as a
> >> common acc_pmd.h.
> >> acc200 is doing everything the acc100 did in a very similar if not exact way,
> >> adding the fft feature.
> >>
> >> Can you point to some portion of this patchset that is so unique that it could
> >> not be abstracted to an if-check or function and so requiring this separate,
> >> nearly identical driver ?
> >>
> > You used a similarity checker really, there are actually way more relevent differences than what you imply here.
> > With regards to the 2 pf_enum.h file, there are many registers that have same or similar names but have now different values being mapped hence you just cannot use one for the other.
> > Saying that "./acc200/acc200_pmd.h consists for 92 % of ./acc100/rte_acc100_pmd.h" is just not correct and really irrelevant.
> > Just do a diff side by side please and check, that should be extremely obvious, that metrics tells more about the similarity checker limitation than anything else.
> > Even when using a common driver for ACC200/300 they will have distinct register enum files being auto-generated and coming from distinct RDL.
> > Again just do a diff of these 2 files. I believe you will agree that is not relevant for these files to try to artificially merged these together.
> >
> > With regards to the pmd.h, some structure/defines are indeed common and could be moved to a common file (for instance turboencoder and LDPC encoder which are more vanilla and unlikely to change for future product unlike the decoders which have different feature set and behaviour; or some 3GPP constant that can be defined once).
> > We can definitely change these to put together shared structures/defines, but not intending to try to artificially put things together with spaghetti code.
> > We would like to keep 3 parallel versions of these PMD for 3 different product lines which are indeed fundamentally different designs (including different workaround required as can be seen on the parallel ACC100 serie under review).
> > - one version for FPGA implementation (support for N3000, N6000, ...)
> > - one version for eASIC lookaside card implementation (ACC100, ACC101, ...)
> > - one version for the integrated Xeon accelerators (ACC200, ACC300, ...)
> 
> Some suggestions on refactoring,
> 
> For the registers, have a common file.
> 
> For the shared functionality, ex/ ldpc encoder, break these out to its 
> own shared file.
> 
> The public interface, see my earlier comments on the documentation, 
> should be have the same interfaces and the few differences highlighted.

+1 to have common files, and all in a single directory drivers/baseband/acc100/




  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-14 10:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-08  0:01 [PATCH v1 00/10] baseband/acc200 Nicolas Chautru
2022-07-08  0:01 ` [PATCH v1 01/10] baseband/acc200: introduce PMD for ACC200 Nicolas Chautru
2022-09-12  1:08   ` [PATCH v2 00/11] baseband/acc200 Nic Chautru
2022-09-12  1:08     ` [PATCH v2 01/11] baseband/acc100: refactory to segregate common code Nic Chautru
2022-09-12 15:19       ` Bruce Richardson
2022-09-12  1:08     ` [PATCH v2 02/11] baseband/acc200: introduce PMD for ACC200 Nic Chautru
2022-09-12 15:41       ` Bruce Richardson
2022-09-12  1:08     ` [PATCH v2 03/11] baseband/acc200: add HW register definitions Nic Chautru
2022-09-12  1:08     ` [PATCH v2 04/11] baseband/acc200: add info get function Nic Chautru
2022-09-12  1:08     ` [PATCH v2 05/11] baseband/acc200: add queue configuration Nic Chautru
2022-09-12  1:08     ` [PATCH v2 06/11] baseband/acc200: add LDPC processing functions Nic Chautru
2022-09-12  1:08     ` [PATCH v2 07/11] baseband/acc200: add LTE " Nic Chautru
2022-09-12  1:08     ` [PATCH v2 08/11] baseband/acc200: add support for FFT operations Nic Chautru
2022-09-12  1:08     ` [PATCH v2 09/11] baseband/acc200: support interrupt Nic Chautru
2022-09-12  1:08     ` [PATCH v2 10/11] baseband/acc200: add device status and vf2pf comms Nic Chautru
2022-09-12  1:08     ` [PATCH v2 11/11] baseband/acc200: add PF configure companion function Nic Chautru
2022-07-08  0:01 ` [PATCH v1 02/10] baseband/acc200: add HW register definitions Nicolas Chautru
2022-07-08  0:01 ` [PATCH v1 03/10] baseband/acc200: add info get function Nicolas Chautru
2022-07-08  0:01 ` [PATCH v1 04/10] baseband/acc200: add queue configuration Nicolas Chautru
2022-07-08  0:01 ` [PATCH v1 05/10] baseband/acc200: add LDPC processing functions Nicolas Chautru
2022-07-08  0:01 ` [PATCH v1 06/10] baseband/acc200: add LTE " Nicolas Chautru
2022-07-08  0:01 ` [PATCH v1 07/10] baseband/acc200: add support for FFT operations Nicolas Chautru
2022-07-08  0:01 ` [PATCH v1 08/10] baseband/acc200: support interrupt Nicolas Chautru
2022-07-08  0:01 ` [PATCH v1 09/10] baseband/acc200: add device status and vf2pf comms Nicolas Chautru
2022-07-08  0:01 ` [PATCH v1 10/10] baseband/acc200: add PF configure companion function Nicolas Chautru
2022-07-12 13:48 ` [PATCH v1 00/10] baseband/acc200 Maxime Coquelin
2022-07-14 18:49   ` Vargas, Hernan
2022-07-17 13:08     ` Tom Rix
2022-07-22 18:29       ` Vargas, Hernan
2022-07-22 20:19         ` Tom Rix
2022-08-15 17:52           ` Chautru, Nicolas
2022-08-30  7:44   ` Maxime Coquelin
2022-08-30 19:45     ` Chautru, Nicolas
2022-08-31 16:43       ` Maxime Coquelin
2022-08-31 19:20         ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-08-31 19:26       ` Tom Rix
2022-08-31 22:37         ` Chautru, Nicolas
2022-09-01  0:28           ` Tom Rix
2022-09-01  1:26             ` Chautru, Nicolas
2022-09-01 13:49               ` Tom Rix
2022-09-01 20:34                 ` Chautru, Nicolas
2022-09-06 12:51                   ` Tom Rix
2022-09-14 10:35                     ` Thomas Monjalon [this message]
2022-09-14 11:50                       ` Maxime Coquelin
2022-09-14 13:19                         ` Bruce Richardson
2022-09-14 13:27                           ` Maxime Coquelin
2022-09-14 13:44                           ` [EXT] " Akhil Goyal
2022-09-14 14:23                             ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-09-14 19:57                               ` Chautru, Nicolas
2022-09-14 20:08                                 ` Maxime Coquelin

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