From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262605AbUH0LDK (ORCPT ); Fri, 27 Aug 2004 07:03:10 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262837AbUH0LDK (ORCPT ); Fri, 27 Aug 2004 07:03:10 -0400 Received: from ip189.73.1311O-CUD12K-02.ish.de ([62.143.73.189]:54400 "EHLO sheridan") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262605AbUH0LDF (ORCPT ); Fri, 27 Aug 2004 07:03:05 -0400 From: Marcus Metzler MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16687.5352.573457.804217@mocm.de> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:03:04 +0200 To: Koos Vriezen Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Termination of the Philips Webcam Driver (pwc) In-Reply-To: <20040827101433.GA99275@xs4all.nl> References: <20040827101433.GA99275@xs4all.nl> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 15) "Security Through Obscurity" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: mocm@mocm.de X-Face: X!$Vwl\?,AW_[zm^ej\MLxN>q;R?C_sRZ*XE4V;BGT28Ewyd\:TS')W'G#Dgay8ci$*{lEd 02(Nk0OndG\752U>lozmb_R1poDm6mgHm_4.}bdS0hh.`xGUI.X2x_50T9.?_v~.,QI*$2:Q=HV@>F IP6%l~E:T|w,X[eC;|YD(A9X'sS"r$l]g<4CjAm4|f7o0>6zGwUPLinP0.d=E+_%?4>0A9'esEZ=9h $#b[g*/q/g'GVj-hDc,+V_]1.H^N,1Bju,>5FZn"B Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org >>>>> "Koos" == Koos Vriezen writes: Koos> On Fri, 27 Aug 2004, Linus Torvalds wrote: >> On Fri, 27 Aug 2004, Christoph Hellwig wrote: >> > >> > It's not up to him to decide. He can step down from his >> maintainership, > but he can't force the driver to be removed. >> Yes and no. From a legal standpoint you're right. However, we >> should also be polite. If he's the sole author, and he asks for >> it, I think it's reasonable to honor his wishes. Koos> Doubtfully of course. I maintain a small OSS applicatione Koos> and although it sucks, it wouldn't be there where it is now Koos> w/o input from others. Some are better at writing code, Koos> others making patches and others complaing why XYZ doesn't Koos> work. But all do contribute. Imho it would be very unpolite Koos> to them to just say, thanks for everything but this app is Koos> dead and btw. I removed all references to it. Please play Koos> be the rules, GPL is GPL period (and don't make this a weak Koos> spot for OSS by being soft). >> Of course if some new maintainer shows up and decides to infer >> how the device worked by looking at the original open-source >> code, that's also clearly fine. I don't want people to play >> lawyer. Honoring peoples rights to the code they write is more >> important than just the law. Koos> I'm sure this will resolve one day (in the meantime, I've Koos> put what I had on my hd on Koos> http://www.xs4all.nl/~jjvrieze/pwc.html, please alert if the Koos> md5sum are incorrect for those having this somewhere too). Under what license were the binary modules distributed ? Marcus -- /--------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Dr. Marcus O.C. Metzler | | | mocm@metzlerbros.de | http://www.metzlerbros.de/ | \--------------------------------------------------------------------/ |>>> Quis custodiet ipsos custodies <<<|