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From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: Guennadi Liakhovetski <g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>
Cc: Sylwester Nawrocki <sylvester.nawrocki@gmail.com>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	Sylwester Nawrocki <s.nawrocki@samsung.com>,
	Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
	linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
	Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@iki.fi>,
	Prabhakar Lad <prabhakar.lad@ti.com>,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 16/21] V4L2: support asynchronous subdevice registration
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 13:03:10 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1686962.DYieKKCbIi@avalon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1306140902170.6920@axis700.grange>

Hi Guennadi,

On Friday 14 June 2013 09:14:48 Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Jun 2013, Sylwester Nawrocki wrote:
> > Hi Guennadi,
> > 
> > Overall it looks quite neat at this v10. :)
> 
> Thanks :)
> 
> > On 06/11/2013 10:23 AM, Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
> > > Currently bridge device drivers register devices for all subdevices
> > > synchronously, tupically, during their probing. E.g. if an I2C CMOS
> > > sensor
> > 
> > s/tupically/typically
> > 
> > > is attached to a video bridge device, the bridge driver will create an
> > > I2C
> > > 
> > > +/**
> > > + * v4l2_async_subdev_list - provided by subdevices
> > > + * @list:	links struct v4l2_async_subdev_list objects to a global list
> > > + *		before probing, and onto notifier->done after probing
> > > + * @asd:	pointer to respective struct v4l2_async_subdev
> > > + * @notifier:	pointer to managing notifier
> > > + */
> > > +struct v4l2_async_subdev_list {
> > > +	struct list_head list;
> > > +	struct v4l2_async_subdev *asd;
> > > +	struct v4l2_async_notifier *notifier;
> > > +};
> > 
> > I have a patch for this patch, which embeds members of this struct
> > directly into struct v4l2_subdev. My felling is that the code is simpler
> > and easier to follow this way, I might be missing some important details
> > though.
> 
> Thanks, saw it. In principle I have nothing against it. I think, it's just
> principle approach to this work, which seems to differ slightly from how
> others see it. I tried to as little intrusive as possible, touching
> current APIs only if absolutely necessary, keeping the async stuff largely
> separated from the rest. If however the common feeling is, that we should
> inject it directly in V4L2 core, I have nothing against it either. Still,
> I would prefer to keep the .c and .h files separate for now at least to
> reduce merge conflicts etc.
> 
> > > +/**
> > > + * v4l2_async_notifier - v4l2_device notifier data
> > > + * @subdev_num:	number of subdevices
> > > + * @subdev:	array of pointers to subdevices
> > 
> > How about changing this to:
> >       @subdevs: array of pointers to the subdevice descriptors
> 
> I'm sure every single line of comments and code in these (and all other)
> patches can be improved :)
> 
> > I think it would be more immediately clear this is the actual subdevs
> > array pointer, and perhaps we could have subdev_num renamed to num_subdevs
> > ?
> 
> Sure, why not :)
> 
> > > + * @v4l2_dev:	pointer to struct v4l2_device
> > > + * @waiting:	list of struct v4l2_async_subdev, waiting for their
> > > drivers
> > > + * @done:	list of struct v4l2_async_subdev_list, already probed
> > > + * @list:	member in a global list of notifiers
> > > + * @bound:	a subdevice driver has successfully probed one of subdevices
> > > + * @complete:	all subdevices have been probed successfully
> > > + * @unbind:	a subdevice is leaving
> > > + */
> > > +struct v4l2_async_notifier {
> > > +	unsigned int subdev_num;
> > > +	struct v4l2_async_subdev **subdev;
> > > +	struct v4l2_device *v4l2_dev;
> > > +	struct list_head waiting;
> > > +	struct list_head done;
> > > +	struct list_head list;
> > > +	int (*bound)(struct v4l2_async_notifier *notifier,
> > > +		     struct v4l2_subdev *subdev,
> > > +		     struct v4l2_async_subdev *asd);
> > > +	int (*complete)(struct v4l2_async_notifier *notifier);
> > > +	void (*unbind)(struct v4l2_async_notifier *notifier,
> > > +		       struct v4l2_subdev *subdev,
> > > +		       struct v4l2_async_subdev *asd);
> > > +};
> > > +
> > > +int v4l2_async_notifier_register(struct v4l2_device *v4l2_dev,
> > > +				 struct v4l2_async_notifier *notifier);
> > > +void v4l2_async_notifier_unregister(struct v4l2_async_notifier
> > > *notifier);
> > > +int v4l2_async_register_subdev(struct v4l2_subdev *sd);
> > > +void v4l2_async_unregister_subdev(struct v4l2_subdev *sd);
> > 
> > I still think "async_" in this public API is unnecessary, since we
> > register/ unregister a subdev with the core and notifiers are
> > intrinsically asynchronous.
> > But your preference seems be otherwise, what could I do... :) At most it
> > just means one less happy user of this interface.
> 
> See above :) And another point - this is your opinion, which I certainly
> respect and take into account. I think, Laurent somehow softly inclined in
> the same direction. But I didn't hear any other opinions, so, in the end I
> have to make a decision - is everyone more likely to like what has been
> proposed by this specific reviewer, or would everyone object :) There are
> obvious things - fixes etc., and there are less obvious ones - naming,
> formulating and such. So, here again - I just would prefer all methods,
> comprising this API to share the same namespace. To make it clearer, that
> if you register subdevices asynchronously, you also need notifiers on the
> host and the other way round. To make it easier to authors to match these
> methods. Just my 2p :)
> 
> > So except this bikeshedding I don't really have other comments, I'm going
> > to test this series with the s3c-camif/ov9650 drivers and will report
> > back soon.
> > 
> > It would have been a shame to not have this series in 3.11. I guess three
> > kernel cycles, since the initial implementation, time frame is sufficient
> > for having finally working camera devices on a device tree enabled system
> > in mainline.
> 
> Great! So, let's get 1 or 2 opinions more, then I can make a v11 with just
> a couple of cosmetic changes and kindly ask Mauro to pull this in :)

I have no further comment than those already posted by Hans and Sylwester on 
v10. I'll ack v11 (possibly with comments on the documentation though ;-)).

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart


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From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: Guennadi Liakhovetski <g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>
Cc: Sylwester Nawrocki <sylvester.nawrocki@gmail.com>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	Sylwester Nawrocki <s.nawrocki@samsung.com>,
	Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
	linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
	Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@iki.fi>,
	Prabhakar Lad <prabhakar.lad@ti.com>,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 16/21] V4L2: support asynchronous subdevice registration
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 15:03:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1686962.DYieKKCbIi@avalon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1306140902170.6920@axis700.grange>

Hi Guennadi,

On Friday 14 June 2013 09:14:48 Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Jun 2013, Sylwester Nawrocki wrote:
> > Hi Guennadi,
> > 
> > Overall it looks quite neat at this v10. :)
> 
> Thanks :)
> 
> > On 06/11/2013 10:23 AM, Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
> > > Currently bridge device drivers register devices for all subdevices
> > > synchronously, tupically, during their probing. E.g. if an I2C CMOS
> > > sensor
> > 
> > s/tupically/typically
> > 
> > > is attached to a video bridge device, the bridge driver will create an
> > > I2C
> > > 
> > > +/**
> > > + * v4l2_async_subdev_list - provided by subdevices
> > > + * @list:	links struct v4l2_async_subdev_list objects to a global list
> > > + *		before probing, and onto notifier->done after probing
> > > + * @asd:	pointer to respective struct v4l2_async_subdev
> > > + * @notifier:	pointer to managing notifier
> > > + */
> > > +struct v4l2_async_subdev_list {
> > > +	struct list_head list;
> > > +	struct v4l2_async_subdev *asd;
> > > +	struct v4l2_async_notifier *notifier;
> > > +};
> > 
> > I have a patch for this patch, which embeds members of this struct
> > directly into struct v4l2_subdev. My felling is that the code is simpler
> > and easier to follow this way, I might be missing some important details
> > though.
> 
> Thanks, saw it. In principle I have nothing against it. I think, it's just
> principle approach to this work, which seems to differ slightly from how
> others see it. I tried to as little intrusive as possible, touching
> current APIs only if absolutely necessary, keeping the async stuff largely
> separated from the rest. If however the common feeling is, that we should
> inject it directly in V4L2 core, I have nothing against it either. Still,
> I would prefer to keep the .c and .h files separate for now at least to
> reduce merge conflicts etc.
> 
> > > +/**
> > > + * v4l2_async_notifier - v4l2_device notifier data
> > > + * @subdev_num:	number of subdevices
> > > + * @subdev:	array of pointers to subdevices
> > 
> > How about changing this to:
> >       @subdevs: array of pointers to the subdevice descriptors
> 
> I'm sure every single line of comments and code in these (and all other)
> patches can be improved :)
> 
> > I think it would be more immediately clear this is the actual subdevs
> > array pointer, and perhaps we could have subdev_num renamed to num_subdevs
> > ?
> 
> Sure, why not :)
> 
> > > + * @v4l2_dev:	pointer to struct v4l2_device
> > > + * @waiting:	list of struct v4l2_async_subdev, waiting for their
> > > drivers
> > > + * @done:	list of struct v4l2_async_subdev_list, already probed
> > > + * @list:	member in a global list of notifiers
> > > + * @bound:	a subdevice driver has successfully probed one of subdevices
> > > + * @complete:	all subdevices have been probed successfully
> > > + * @unbind:	a subdevice is leaving
> > > + */
> > > +struct v4l2_async_notifier {
> > > +	unsigned int subdev_num;
> > > +	struct v4l2_async_subdev **subdev;
> > > +	struct v4l2_device *v4l2_dev;
> > > +	struct list_head waiting;
> > > +	struct list_head done;
> > > +	struct list_head list;
> > > +	int (*bound)(struct v4l2_async_notifier *notifier,
> > > +		     struct v4l2_subdev *subdev,
> > > +		     struct v4l2_async_subdev *asd);
> > > +	int (*complete)(struct v4l2_async_notifier *notifier);
> > > +	void (*unbind)(struct v4l2_async_notifier *notifier,
> > > +		       struct v4l2_subdev *subdev,
> > > +		       struct v4l2_async_subdev *asd);
> > > +};
> > > +
> > > +int v4l2_async_notifier_register(struct v4l2_device *v4l2_dev,
> > > +				 struct v4l2_async_notifier *notifier);
> > > +void v4l2_async_notifier_unregister(struct v4l2_async_notifier
> > > *notifier);
> > > +int v4l2_async_register_subdev(struct v4l2_subdev *sd);
> > > +void v4l2_async_unregister_subdev(struct v4l2_subdev *sd);
> > 
> > I still think "async_" in this public API is unnecessary, since we
> > register/ unregister a subdev with the core and notifiers are
> > intrinsically asynchronous.
> > But your preference seems be otherwise, what could I do... :) At most it
> > just means one less happy user of this interface.
> 
> See above :) And another point - this is your opinion, which I certainly
> respect and take into account. I think, Laurent somehow softly inclined in
> the same direction. But I didn't hear any other opinions, so, in the end I
> have to make a decision - is everyone more likely to like what has been
> proposed by this specific reviewer, or would everyone object :) There are
> obvious things - fixes etc., and there are less obvious ones - naming,
> formulating and such. So, here again - I just would prefer all methods,
> comprising this API to share the same namespace. To make it clearer, that
> if you register subdevices asynchronously, you also need notifiers on the
> host and the other way round. To make it easier to authors to match these
> methods. Just my 2p :)
> 
> > So except this bikeshedding I don't really have other comments, I'm going
> > to test this series with the s3c-camif/ov9650 drivers and will report
> > back soon.
> > 
> > It would have been a shame to not have this series in 3.11. I guess three
> > kernel cycles, since the initial implementation, time frame is sufficient
> > for having finally working camera devices on a device tree enabled system
> > in mainline.
> 
> Great! So, let's get 1 or 2 opinions more, then I can make a v11 with just
> a couple of cosmetic changes and kindly ask Mauro to pull this in :)

I have no further comment than those already posted by Hans and Sylwester on 
v10. I'll ack v11 (possibly with comments on the documentation though ;-)).

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-06-14 13:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-11  8:23 [PATCH v10 00/21] V4L2 clock and asynchronous probing Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23 ` [PATCH v10 01/21] soc-camera: move common code to soc_camera.c Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23 ` [PATCH v10 02/21] soc-camera: add host clock callbacks to start and stop the master clock Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23 ` [PATCH v10 03/21] pxa-camera: move interface activation and deactivation to clock callbacks Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23 ` [PATCH v10 04/21] omap1-camera: " Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23 ` [PATCH v10 05/21] atmel-isi: " Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23 ` [PATCH v10 06/21] mx3-camera: " Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23 ` [PATCH v10 07/21] mx2-camera: " Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23 ` [PATCH v10 08/21] mx1-camera: " Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23 ` [PATCH v10 09/21] sh-mobile-ceu-camera: move interface activation and deactivation to clock callback Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23   ` [PATCH v10 09/21] sh-mobile-ceu-camera: move interface activation and deactivation to clock callbacks Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23 ` [PATCH v10 10/21] soc-camera: make .clock_{start,stop} compulsory, .add / .remove optional Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23 ` [PATCH v10 11/21] soc-camera: don't attach the client to the host during probing Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23 ` [PATCH v10 12/21] sh-mobile-ceu-camera: add primitive OF support Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23 ` [PATCH v10 13/21] sh-mobile-ceu-driver: support max width and height in DT Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23 ` [PATCH v10 14/21] V4L2: add temporary clock helpers Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23 ` [PATCH v10 15/21] V4L2: add a device pointer to struct v4l2_subdev Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-12 17:16   ` Prabhakar Lad
2013-06-12 17:28     ` Prabhakar Lad
2013-06-13 10:32   ` Hans Verkuil
2013-06-13 10:32     ` Hans Verkuil
2013-06-11  8:23 ` [PATCH v10 16/21] V4L2: support asynchronous subdevice registration Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-12 17:18   ` Prabhakar Lad
2013-06-12 17:30     ` Prabhakar Lad
2013-06-13 21:37   ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-06-13 21:37     ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-06-14  7:14     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-14  7:14       ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-14  9:07       ` Hans Verkuil
2013-06-14  9:07         ` Hans Verkuil
2013-06-14  9:14         ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-14  9:14           ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-14  9:40           ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-06-14  9:40             ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-06-14  9:44             ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-14  9:44               ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-14 12:58             ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-06-14 12:58               ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-06-14 13:03       ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2013-06-14 13:03         ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-06-13 21:39   ` [PATCH] V4L2: Merge struct v4l2_async_subdev_list with struct v4l2_subdev Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-06-13 21:39     ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-06-11  8:23 ` [PATCH v10 17/21] soc-camera: switch I2C subdevice drivers to use v4l2-clk Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23 ` [PATCH v10 18/21] soc-camera: add V4L2-async support Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23 ` [PATCH v10 19/21] sh_mobile_ceu_camera: add asynchronous subdevice probing support Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23 ` [PATCH v10 20/21] imx074: support asynchronous probing Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23 ` [PATCH v10 21/21] ARM: shmobile: convert ap4evb to asynchronously register camera subdevices Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-06-11  8:23   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski

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