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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	josh@joshtriplett.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	dipankar@in.ibm.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	dhowells@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com, dvhart@linux.intel.com,
	fweisbec@gmail.com, oleg@redhat.com,
	bobby prani <bobby.prani@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 0/5] Expedited grace periods encouraging normal ones
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 18:47:47 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1689655382.3088.1435862867358.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150702183557.GA15331@gmail.com>

----- On Jul 2, 2015, at 2:35 PM, Ingo Molnar mingo@kernel.org wrote:

> * Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
>> > And it's not like it's that hard to stem the flow of algorithmic sloppiness at
>> > the source, right?
>> 
>> OK, first let me make sure that I understand what you are asking for:
>> 
>> 1.	Completely eliminate synchronize_rcu_expedited() and
>> 	synchronize_sched_expedited(), replacing all uses with their
>> 	unexpedited counterparts.  (Note that synchronize_srcu_expedited()
>> 	does not wake up CPUs, courtesy of its read-side memory barriers.)
>> 	The fast-boot guys are probably going to complain, along with
>> 	the networking guys.
>> 
>> 2.	Keep synchronize_rcu_expedited() and synchronize_sched_expedited(),
>> 	but push back hard on any new uses and question any existing uses.
>> 
>> 3.	Revert 74b51ee152b6 ("ACPI / osl: speedup grace period in
>> 	acpi_os_map_cleanup").
>> 
>> 4.	Something else?
> 
> I'd love to have 1) but 2) would be a realistic second best option? ;-)

Perhaps triggering a printk warning if use of
synchronize_{rcu,sched}_expedited() go beyond of certain rate might be
another option ? If we detect that a caller calls it too often, we could
emit a printk warning with a stack trace. This should ensure everyone
is very careful about where they use it.

Thanks,

Mathieu

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-02 18:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-30 21:48 [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 0/5] Expedited grace periods encouraging normal ones Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-30 21:48 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/5] rcu: Prepare for expedited GP driving normal GP Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-30 21:48   ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 2/5] rcu: Short-circuit normal GPs via expedited GPs Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-01 10:03     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-01 13:42       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-01 20:59       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-01 10:05     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-01 13:41       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-01 13:48         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-01 14:03           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-02 12:03             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-02 14:06               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-02 16:48                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-02 19:35                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-06 14:52                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-30 21:48   ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 3/5] rcutorture: Ensure that normal GPs advance without " Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-30 21:48   ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 4/5] rcu: Wake grace-period kthread at end of expedited grace period Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-30 21:48   ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 5/5] rcu: Limit expedited helping to every 10 ms or every 4th GP Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-30 21:56     ` Eric Dumazet
2015-06-30 22:10       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-01 10:07     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-01 13:45       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-01 19:30       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-30 22:00 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 0/5] Expedited grace periods encouraging normal ones josh
2015-06-30 22:12   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-30 23:46     ` josh
2015-07-01  0:15       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-01  0:42         ` Josh Triplett
2015-07-01  3:37           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-01 10:12             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-01 14:01               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-01 14:08                 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-07-01 15:58                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-01 15:43             ` Josh Triplett
2015-07-01 15:59               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-01 10:09       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-01 10:55         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-01 14:00           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-01 14:17             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-01 16:17               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-01 17:02                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-01 20:09                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-01 21:20                     ` josh
2015-07-01 21:49                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-02  7:47                     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-07-02 13:58                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-02 18:35                         ` Ingo Molnar
2015-07-02 18:47                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2015-07-02 19:23                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-02 21:07                               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-07-02 19:22                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-02  1:11                 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-07-02  1:34                   ` josh
2015-07-02  1:59                     ` Mike Galbraith
2015-07-02  2:18                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-02  2:50                         ` Mike Galbraith
2015-07-02  3:15                           ` Paul E. McKenney

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