From: Dominic Sweetman <dom@mips.com>
To: Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>
Cc: Hiroshi DOYU <Hiroshi_DOYU@montavista.co.jp>, linux-mips@linux-mips.org
Subject: Re: how to access structured registers correctly
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 08:28:38 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <17127.14246.112209.239338@mips.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050726190643.GD7088@linux-mips.org>
Ralf Baechle (ralf@linux-mips.org) writes:
> > In tx4938, every register access is done by using "volatile" like below.
>
> Linus is right, volatile is a dangerous thing. If you want to write
> portable code there's a bunch of things that are not being taken care of
> by plain C - even though in my opinion foo->somereg = 42 is more
> readable than writel(somereg, 42). Among the things the pointer to
> volatile struct method doesn't catch are endianess conversion that might
> be necessary on some systems, write merging, dealing with write buffers
> or completly insane methods of attaching the bus such as the infamous
> ISA / EISA cage that's attached to the host system through a USB
> interface.
Yes, this is far outside the compiler's reach.
All of which suggests that it would make sense to define a standard function
which:
o will produce just one fixed-width write cycle to the destination;
o will deliver the data ordered so that the MSB of the C value is on
the "most significant" bit of the device's data bus, usually the
highest numbered bit (this doesn't solve all device endianess
issues, but it gives you a well-defined place to start solving them);
o has a variant which returns only after some indication that the
data was delivered;
The implementation of this function can then conceal the details of
the CPU and interconnect.
Such a function should probably not be called "writel()" because that
sounds like "write long", and "long" is not a fixed-size data type,
which undermines the promises above... Tediously, you probably need
"writei32()", "writei16()", "writei8()"...
--
Dominic Sweetman
MIPS Technologies
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-07-27 7:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-07-26 9:25 how to access structured registers correctly Hiroshi DOYU
2005-07-26 19:06 ` Ralf Baechle
2005-07-27 7:28 ` Dominic Sweetman [this message]
2005-08-01 7:51 ` Ralf Baechle
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