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From: "Petr Vandrovec" <VANDROVE@vc.cvut.cz>
To: Andre Hedrick <andre@linux-ide.org>
Cc: Nick Orlov <nick.orlov@mail.ru>,
	B.Zolnierkiewicz@elka.pw.edu.pl,
	Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@conectiva.com.br>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, davidsen@tmr.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] pdc20265 problem.
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 20:22:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <17291A73E81@vcnet.vc.cvut.cz> (raw)

On  8 Aug 02 at 10:30, Andre Hedrick wrote:
> 
> http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderlet.html

Page 40 of manual: choose Onboard IDE or FastTrak ATA-100/RAID.
OnboardIDE means Serverworks, FastTrak means PDC20265.
BIOS settings for primary/secondary disk relate to the Serverworks
channels.

> http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tiger200t.html

Page 11: Primary/secondary IDE: VIA, RAID primary/secondary: PDC.
Page 33: Primary/secondary IDE settings relate to the VIA.

> http://www.tyan.com/products/html/trinityi845e.html

Page 5: Integrated PCI IDE (it talks about i845 internal) +
integrated IDE RAID (20267, so no relevance here). Page 28:
primary/secondary disables i845, not PDC.

> http://www.tyan.com/products/html/trinitygcsl.html

Serverworks, with IDE. Serverworks IDE is primary.
RAID is 20267, so no relevance. Manual not available yet.

> http://www.epox.com/html/english/products/motherboard/ep-d3va.htm

VIA onboard, HPT370 RAID. Connectors of RAID marked IDE3/IDE4.

> http://www.epox.com/html/english/products/motherboard/ep-8k3a.htm

8k3a has no RAID. 8k3a+ has PDC20267. Primary IDE is from VIA,
RAID is additional...

> http://www.supermicro.com/PRODUCT/MotherBoards/VIA/370DDE.htm

Manual unavailable from the web (404 Page not found after clicking
on manual). Picture shows IDE #1/IDE #2 (VIA) and IDE RAID #1/#2.
Besides that it has PDC20267, so it has no relevance to this discussion.

> http://www.supermicro.com/PRODUCT/MotherBoards/VIA/P3TDDE.htm

Manual page #10: IDE1/IDE2 for VIA, IDE RAID #1/#2 for PDC.
Page 14: 2 IDE bus master interfaces support UDMA/100 (listed first),
2 IDE RAID connectors (listed later). Page 49: IDE primary/secondary
settings relate to the VIA.
 
> all know better, are wiser, empower w/ megalmania (sp) and gawd knows what
> else.  Please next time, do your homework before you attempt to call me
> on these issues.  Do the two word "Native" and "Compatablity" in ATA-ATAPI
> have meaning?  This will help you go a long way.

I did my homework. I still believe that there is NO MAINBOARD with
PDC20265, and without southbridge IDE - be it VIA, SiS, Intel or Nvidia.
All motherboards you listed have PDC (or HPT) as an additional controller,
and manual always refers to southbridge as IDE#1/IDE#2, while PDC
is referred as IDE RAID#1/#2, or even as IDE#3/IDE#4.

If you tried to prove that PDC20265 should never be ide0/ide1, then
we are on the same boat.
                                                Petr Vandrovec
                                                vandrove@vc.cvut.cz
                                                
P.S.: Both Tyan and Epox should make their ftp servers much, much faster...
                                                

             reply	other threads:[~2002-08-08 18:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-08-08 18:22 Petr Vandrovec [this message]
2002-08-08 18:35 ` [PATCH] pdc20265 problem Andre Hedrick
2002-08-09  6:47   ` Marcin Dalecki
2002-08-12  1:24     ` Andre Hedrick
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-08-08 16:48 Petr Vandrovec
2002-08-08 17:30 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-08-08 12:45 Petr Vandrovec
2002-08-08 13:02 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-08-07 18:39 Adam J. Richter
2002-08-07 19:33 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-08-07 21:11   ` Alan Cox
2002-08-07 20:02     ` Thunder from the hill
2002-08-07 23:40       ` Alan Cox
2002-08-07 10:20 Petr Vandrovec
2002-08-07 23:04 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-08-07  7:54 Adam J. Richter
2002-08-07 11:41 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-07 23:08   ` Bill Davidsen
2002-08-08 10:49     ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-08-07 16:32 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-08-06 10:28 Petr Vandrovec
2002-08-02 19:05 Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2002-08-02 23:05 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2002-08-03  0:55   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2002-08-03  0:08     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2002-08-03  1:22     ` Nick Orlov
2002-08-03 13:41       ` Alan Cox
2002-08-06  3:48     ` Bill Davidsen
2002-08-06  4:33       ` Nick Orlov
2002-08-07  3:09         ` Bill Davidsen
2002-08-07  3:56           ` Nick Orlov
2002-08-07 18:30             ` Andre Hedrick
2002-08-07 20:27               ` Tomas Szepe
2002-08-07 22:46             ` Bill Davidsen
2002-08-08 10:50               ` Andre Hedrick
2002-08-08 17:42                 ` Nick Orlov
2002-08-08 18:02                   ` Andre Hedrick
2002-08-09  6:44                     ` Marcin Dalecki
2002-08-12  1:37                       ` Andre Hedrick
2002-08-09 17:16                 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-08-01  6:38 Linux v2.4.19-rc5 Marcelo Tosatti
2002-08-02  1:47 ` [PATCH] pdc20265 problem Nick Orlov
2002-08-02  2:29   ` Nick Orlov
2002-08-02 12:27   ` Alan Cox
2002-08-02 12:52     ` Nick Orlov
2002-08-02 14:00       ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2002-08-02 14:45         ` Nick Orlov

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