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From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Hugo Mills <hugo@carfax.org.uk>
Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, Simon Wilkinson <simonxwilkinson@gmail.com>,
	jaltman@your-file-system.com,
	"openafs-devel@openafs.org" <openafs-devel@openafs.org>,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, clm@fb.com
Subject: Re: What is needed to build an AFS fileserver on top of BTRFS?
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 17:47:58 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <17945.1387302478@warthog.procyon.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131217172002.GE11281@carfax.org.uk>

Hugo Mills <hugo@carfax.org.uk> wrote:

> >  (1) 64-bit data version numbers that increase monotonically with
> > each write. Yes, this is likely to cause some performance
> > degredation as it introduces an ordering over data writes and
> > metadata writes to a file. Maybe writes can be batched to improve
> > performance?
> 
>    Do these have to be per-file? If not, then you might be able to get
> away with using the transid, which is a filesystem-global
> monotonically-increasing number.

Yes.  If you send a write RPC op to the server, you get back the new version
number.  If the new version number is not the old version number + 1 you know
there was a collision with a write from another client and you have to flush
your cache for that file and request a new "callback" (ie. a promise to notify
you if someone else changes the file).

> >  (3) The ability to snapshot a filesystem to make backups and for
> >      pushing to read-only volume servers.
> 
>    We have snapshots of subvolumes, but not the filesystem as a whole.

By "filesystem" I meant the current state of an AFS volume.  Very likely this
would be represented by a BTRFS subvolume, if I understand it correctly.  You
might have several AFS volumes represented within a BTRFS filesystem.  They
would be manipulated independently.

> >  (5) The ability to set the vnode number, vnode uniquifier and data
> >      version number to specific values. Necessary to clone volumes
> >      and restore volume dumps.
> 
>    What's a vnode meant to represent? I'm not familiar with the
> terminology.

AFS's equivalent of an inode with a 32-bit number representing it.  See my
reply to Chris's question about the same thing.

David

  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-17 17:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-17 16:53 What is needed to build an AFS fileserver on top of BTRFS? David Howells
2013-12-17 17:07 ` Chris Mason
2013-12-17 17:40   ` David Howells
2013-12-17 18:42     ` [OpenAFS-devel] " Jeffrey Hutzelman
2013-12-17 17:20 ` Hugo Mills
2013-12-17 17:47   ` David Howells [this message]
2013-12-17 18:45     ` [OpenAFS-devel] " Jeffrey Hutzelman

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