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From: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: Yang Shi <yang@os.amperecomputing.com>,
	catalin.marinas@arm.com, ryan.roberts@arm.com, rppt@kernel.org,
	shijie@os.amperecomputing.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arm64/pageattr: Propagate return value from __change_memory_common
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2025 09:09:26 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <17eed751-e1c5-4ea5-af1d-e96da16d5e26@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <586b8d19-a5d2-4248-869b-98f39b792acb@arm.com>


On 05/11/25 9:27 am, Dev Jain wrote:
>
> On 04/11/25 6:26 pm, Will Deacon wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 04, 2025 at 09:06:12AM +0530, Dev Jain wrote:
>>> On 04/11/25 12:15 am, Yang Shi wrote:
>>>> On 11/3/25 7:16 AM, Will Deacon wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 03, 2025 at 11:43:06AM +0530, Dev Jain wrote:
>>>>>> Post a166563e7ec3 ("arm64: mm: support large block mapping when
>>>>>> rodata=full"),
>>>>>> __change_memory_common has a real chance of failing due to split
>>>>>> failure.
>>>>>> Before that commit, this line was introduced in c55191e96caa,
>>>>>> still having
>>>>>> a chance of failing if it needs to allocate pagetable memory in
>>>>>> apply_to_page_range, although that has never been observed to be 
>>>>>> true.
>>>>>> In general, we should always propagate the return value to the 
>>>>>> caller.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
>>>>>> Fixes: c55191e96caa ("arm64: mm: apply r/o permissions of VM
>>>>>> areas to its linear alias as well")
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Based on Linux 6.18-rc4.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    arch/arm64/mm/pageattr.c | 5 ++++-
>>>>>>    1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/mm/pageattr.c b/arch/arm64/mm/pageattr.c
>>>>>> index 5135f2d66958..b4ea86cd3a71 100644
>>>>>> --- a/arch/arm64/mm/pageattr.c
>>>>>> +++ b/arch/arm64/mm/pageattr.c
>>>>>> @@ -148,6 +148,7 @@ static int change_memory_common(unsigned
>>>>>> long addr, int numpages,
>>>>>>        unsigned long size = PAGE_SIZE * numpages;
>>>>>>        unsigned long end = start + size;
>>>>>>        struct vm_struct *area;
>>>>>> +    int ret;
>>>>>>        int i;
>>>>>>          if (!PAGE_ALIGNED(addr)) {
>>>>>> @@ -185,8 +186,10 @@ static int change_memory_common(unsigned
>>>>>> long addr, int numpages,
>>>>>>        if (rodata_full && (pgprot_val(set_mask) == PTE_RDONLY ||
>>>>>>                    pgprot_val(clear_mask) == PTE_RDONLY)) {
>>>>>>            for (i = 0; i < area->nr_pages; i++) {
>>>>>> - __change_memory_common((u64)page_address(area->pages[i]),
>>>>>> +            ret =
>>>>>> __change_memory_common((u64)page_address(area->pages[i]),
>>>>>>                               PAGE_SIZE, set_mask, clear_mask);
>>>>>> +            if (ret)
>>>>>> +                return ret;
>>>>> Hmm, this means we can return failure half-way through the 
>>>>> operation. Is
>>>>> that something callers are expecting to handle? If so, how can 
>>>>> they tell
>>>>> how far we got?
>>>> IIUC the callers don't have to know whether it is half-way or not
>>>> because the callers will change the permission back (e.g. to RW) 
>>>> for the
>>>> whole range when freeing memory.
>>> Yes, it is the caller's responsibility to set VM_FLUSH_RESET_PERMS 
>>> flag.
>>> Upon vfree(), it will change the direct map permissions back to RW.
>> Ok, but vfree() ends up using update_range_prot() to do that and if we
>> need to worry about that failing (as per your commit message), then
>> we're in trouble because the calls to set_area_direct_map() are 
>> unchecked.
>>
>> In other words, this patch is either not necessary or it is incomplete.
>
> Here is the relevant email, in the discussion between Ryan and Yang:
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/fe52a1d8-5211-4962-afc8-c3f9caf64119@os.amperecomputing.com/ 
>
>
> We had concluded that all callers of set_memory_ro() or 
> set_memory_rox() (which require the
> linear map perm change back to default, upon vfree() ) will call it 
> for the entire region (vm_struct).
> So, when we do the set_direct_map_invalid_noflush, it is guaranteed 
> that the region has already
> been split. So this call cannot fail.
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/f8898c87-8f49-4ef2-86ae-b60bcf67658c@os.amperecomputing.com/ 
>
>
> This email notes that there is some code doing set_memory_rw() and 
> unnecessarily setting the VM_FLUSH_RESET_PERMS
> flag, but in that case we don't care about the 
> set_direct_map_invalid_noflush call failing because the protections
> are already RW.
>
> Although we had also observed that all of this is fragile and depends 
> on the caller doing the
> correct thing. The real solution should be somehow getting rid of the 
> BBM style invalidation.
> Ryan had proposed some methods in that email thread.
>
> One solution which I had thought of, is that, observe that we are 
> doing an overkill by
> setting the linear map to invalid and then default, for the *entire* 
> region. What we
> can do is iterate over the linear map alias of the vm_struct *area and 
> only change permission
> back to RW for the pages which are *not* RW. And, those relevant 
> mappings are guaranteed to
> be split because they were changed from RW to not RW.

@Yang and Ryan,

I saw Yang's patch here:
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20251023204428.477531-1-yang@os.amperecomputing.com/
and realized that currently we are splitting away the linear map alias 
of the *entire* region.

Shouldn't this then imply that set_direct_map_invalid_noflush will never 
fail, since even

a set_memory_rox() call on a single page will split the linear map for 
the entire region,

and thus there is no fragility here which we were discussing about? I 
may be forgetting

something, this linear map stuff is confusing enough already.


>
>>
>> Will
>


  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-11  3:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-03  6:13 [PATCH] arm64/pageattr: Propagate return value from __change_memory_common Dev Jain
2025-11-03  7:48 ` Anshuman Khandual
2025-11-03  8:34   ` Dev Jain
2025-11-03 15:16 ` Will Deacon
2025-11-03 18:45   ` Yang Shi
2025-11-04  3:36     ` Dev Jain
2025-11-04 12:56       ` Will Deacon
2025-11-04 13:22         ` Dev Jain
2025-11-05  3:57         ` Dev Jain
2025-11-11  3:39           ` Dev Jain [this message]
2025-11-11  4:17             ` Yang Shi
2025-11-11  4:37               ` Dev Jain
2025-11-11  4:44                 ` Yang Shi
2025-11-11  4:55                   ` Dev Jain
2025-11-11  5:08                     ` Yang Shi
2025-11-11  5:12                       ` Dev Jain
2025-11-11 17:52                         ` Ryan Roberts
2025-11-11 23:59                           ` Yang Shi
2025-11-12  3:50                           ` Dev Jain
2025-11-11 23:45                         ` Yang Shi
2025-11-12  3:47                           ` Dev Jain
2025-11-12  5:59                 ` Dev Jain

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