From: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>
To: Daniel Phillips <phillips@arcor.de>,
Andreas Dilger <adilger@clusterfs.com>,
bwindle-kbt@fint.org
Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
ext2-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
chrisl@vmware.com
Subject: Re: [Bug 417] New: htree much slower than regular ext3
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 13:33:20 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <184970000.1046381600@flay> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030227212403.D28DA3C7CB@mx01.nexgo.de>
>> > 11 ms sounds like two seeks for each returned dirent, which sounds
>> > like a bug.
>>
>> I think you are pretty dead on there. The difference is that with
>> unindexed entries, the directory entry and the inode are in the same
>> order, while with indexed directories they are essentially in random
>> order to each other. That means that each directory lookup causes a
>> seek to get the directory inode data instead of doing allocation order
>> (which is sequential reads on disk).
>>
>> In the past both would have been slow equally, but the orlov allocator in
>> 2.5 causes a number of directories to be created in the same group before
>> moving on to the next group, so you have nice batches of sequential
>> reads.
>
> I think you're close to the truth there, but out-of-order inode table
> access would only introduce one seek per inode table block, and the
> cache should take care of the rest. Martin's numbers suggest the cache
> isn't caching at all.
>
> Martin, does iostat show enormously more reads for the Htree case?
Wasn't me ... I just forward the bug data from bugzilla ;-)
Filer in this case was ... bwindle-kbt@fint.org
cc'ed.
M.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-02-27 21:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-02-27 17:31 [Bug 417] New: htree much slower than regular ext3 Martin J. Bligh
2003-02-28 2:55 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-02-27 21:00 ` Andreas Dilger
2003-02-28 4:12 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-02-27 21:33 ` Martin J. Bligh [this message]
2003-03-13 21:04 ` [Ext2-devel] " Stephen C. Tweedie
2003-03-07 15:46 ` Alex Tomas
2003-03-08 17:38 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-03-07 23:27 ` Theodore Ts'o
2003-03-09 19:26 ` Alex Tomas
2003-03-09 7:08 ` Alex Tomas
2003-03-10 17:58 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-03-10 21:25 ` Theodore Ts'o
2003-03-11 21:57 ` Bill Davidsen
[not found] ` <20030307214833.00a37e35.akpm@digeo.com>
[not found] ` <20030308010424.Z1373@schatzie.adilger.int>
2003-03-09 22:54 ` [Ext2-devel] " Daniel Phillips
2003-03-08 23:19 ` Andrew Morton
2003-03-09 23:10 ` Daniel Phillips
[not found] ` <20030309184755.ACC80FCA8C@mx12.arcor-online.net>
[not found] ` <m3u1ecl5h8.fsf@lexa.home.net>
2003-03-10 20:45 ` [RFC] Improved inode number allocation for HTree Daniel Phillips
[not found] ` <3E6D1D25.5000004@namesys.com>
[not found] ` <20030311031216.8A31CEFD5F@mx12.arcor-online.net>
2003-03-11 10:45 ` Hans Reiser
2003-03-11 13:00 ` Helge Hafting
2003-03-11 13:41 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-03-11 17:16 ` Andreas Dilger
2003-03-11 19:39 ` Helge Hafting
2003-03-11 20:19 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-03-11 21:25 ` atomic kernel operations are very tricky to export to user space (was [RFC] Improved inode number allocation for HTree ) Hans Reiser
2003-03-11 23:49 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-03-10 20:48 ` [RFC] Improved inode number allocation for HTree Daniel Phillips
2003-03-10 21:04 ` John Bradford
2003-03-10 21:28 ` Andreas Schwab
2003-03-10 21:50 ` Filesystem write priorities, (Was: Re: [RFC] Improved inode number allocation for HTree) John Bradford
2003-03-14 21:55 ` [Ext2-devel] " Stephen C. Tweedie
2003-03-10 21:33 ` [RFC] Improved inode number allocation for HTree Daniel Phillips
2003-03-10 21:47 ` [Ext2-devel] " Bryan O'Sullivan
2003-03-10 22:02 ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-03-11 8:47 ` Jakob Oestergaard
2003-03-11 11:27 ` John Bradford
2003-03-14 21:57 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2003-03-15 8:39 ` jw schultz
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