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From: "M. Koehrer" <mathias_koehrer@domain.hid>
To: dmitry.adamushko@domain.hid, mathias_koehrer@domain.hid
Cc: xenomai@xenomai.org
Subject: [Xenomai-help] Re: Re: Re: A fairly small rtnet/Xenomai...
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 12:32:28 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <19747995.1166787148515.JavaMail.ngmail@domain.hid> (raw)

Hi Dmitry, 

> 
> > As this is hard to understand, I strongly recommend that there is Xenomai
> support
> > for this! I.e. a Xenomai API that can be called with a (callback-)function
> pointer and
> > a user data pointer.
> > When a (realtime) thread calls this function, the real time thread is
> blocked.
> > The callback function is then called from a safe context and
> > after exit of the callback function the real time thread is resumed.
> 
> I haven't got your idea. Did you get the cause of the problem with fork() ?
Yes, I think I got it (more or less).

However, as a typical user of a OS I do not want to take care of this
very specific things. I want to call an OS-API that is doing the job for me.
I.e. in my example, I want to call an API that allows me to execute whatever
external application without any risk and side effects.
>From the functional point of view I want to use the "system()" call.
When it is not save to call system() directly (due to all the things that have been
discussed), I think it is important to document this (e.g. in the Wiki) _and_ to
provide an easy usable replacement for it, i.e. something like a rt_task_system()
that does all the required things internally for me and behaves on the functional side exactly
like the standard system() does.
The Xenomai Native example is a very good example for a cleanly designed API that
can be easily (and nearly intuitively) used. 
Any workarounds (I call it workaround as the intuitive, straightforward approach is not possible)
that are required to get a problem solved, weakens the whole OS (Xenomai).

Regards

Mathias

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             reply	other threads:[~2006-12-22 11:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-22 11:32 M. Koehrer [this message]
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2006-12-21 10:45 [Xenomai-help] Re: A fairly small rtnet/Xenomai application that freezes the Dmitry Adamushko
2006-12-20 14:11 ` [Xenomai-help] Aw: Re: A fairly small rtnet/Xenomai application that freezes the PC M. Koehrer
2006-12-19  8:08   ` [Xenomai-help] NMI watchdog: Loading of xeno_native leads to reboot of PC Jan Kiszka
2006-12-19  7:54     ` M. Koehrer
2006-12-19  8:14       ` Re: [Xenomai-help] NMI watchdog: Loading of xeno_native leads to M. Koehrer
2006-12-19  9:26         ` [Xenomai-help] NMI watchdog: Loading of xeno_native leads M. Koehrer
2006-12-19 12:04           ` Aw: " M. Koehrer
2006-12-20 13:25             ` [Xenomai-help] A fairly small rtnet/Xenomai application that freezes the PC M. Koehrer
2006-12-21  8:48               ` [Xenomai-help] Re: Re: A fairly small rtnet/Xenomai application that freezes the M. Koehrer
2006-12-21  9:03                 ` [Xenomai-help] " Jan Kiszka
2006-12-21 10:21                   ` M. Koehrer
2006-12-21 11:19                     ` [Xenomai-help] " M. Koehrer
2006-12-21 11:28                       ` Philippe Gerum
2006-12-21 11:51                         ` [Xenomai-help] Re: Re: Re: A fairly small rtnet/Xenomai M. Koehrer
2006-12-21 13:09                           ` Dmitry Adamushko
2006-12-21 13:36                           ` [Xenomai-help] " M. Koehrer
2006-12-21 14:13                             ` Philippe Gerum
2006-12-21 15:00                               ` [Xenomai-help] " M. Koehrer
2006-12-21 15:17                                 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2006-12-21 15:36                                   ` [Xenomai-help] " M. Koehrer
2006-12-21 15:43                                     ` Dmitry Adamushko
2006-12-22  9:06                                       ` M. Koehrer
2006-12-22  9:24                                         ` [Xenomai-help] " Gilles Chanteperdrix
2006-12-22  9:40                                           ` Dmitry Adamushko
2006-12-22 10:27                                             ` [Xenomai-help] " M. Koehrer
2006-12-22 11:20                                               ` Philippe Gerum
2006-12-22 10:15                                                 ` [Xenomai-help] " Gilles Chanteperdrix
2006-12-21 18:18                                                   ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2006-12-22 11:40                                                 ` [Xenomai-help] Re: " M. Koehrer
2006-12-22 12:09                                                   ` Philippe Gerum

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