2011 LXC development mini-conf?

2011 LXC development mini-conf?

[Serge E. Hallyn]

Hi,

Hi, I'm sending this email to gauge interest in a lxc development
mini-conf this summer.  Last year we had many lxc sessions at the
Ubuntu Developer Conference.  I'm all for doing that again, but
while that gives us 'free' scheduling and logistics and a nice focus
on realistic short-term development goals, I fear making it seem
like ubuntu is trying to hijack lxc, and I don't want to make people
on fedora, gentoo, etc to feel there is a barrier to their
attending (*).  Erkan suggested froscon (http://www.froscon.de/), in
Germany Aug 20-21, as a potential site.

If you're interested in attending and that location is ok with
you, please let me know.  If you're interested in attending and
you'd like to suggest another location, please do so.

The focus of the mini-conf is simple: improve LXC.  That means
the lxc toolsuite itself, kernel features exploitable by lxc,
and system management and integration of lxc.

Below is a start to a potential topic list.  If we were to turn
part of this into a hack-fest, we could probably pound out some
of these right there on site.  I think I like the idea of doing
a half day to go over the topics list - write down who is
interested in doing what and who may have tried/started some
of these before, then spend a day (while intermingling with
froscon) hacking, then a half-day wrapup.  That's just a suggestion
though, and perhaps too unorthodox of one.

Potential topics:
	landscape of current (and likely/hopeful) lxc users and use-cases
		to help prioritize development
	container reboot and shutdown
	per-container dmesg
	user namespaces
	lxc LSM integration
	libvirt
		Serge never wrote the libvirt-lxc wrapper driver
		Sentiment is that libvirt should handle container auto-start and networking
		(Some might argue that)
		Discuss
	container startup debugging
		typical irc 'help' converstations suggest there is a problem
	management interface
		curses-based
		other
	udev and device namespaces
		to prevent udev storms on device hotplug
	checkpoint/restart

thanks,
-serge

(*) There still will be LXC sessions at UDS this May, and I highly
encourage developers and users of/on other distros to attend, if only,
as I will be, online.

Re: 2011 LXC development mini-conf?

[Dhaval Giani]

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Serge E. Hallyn
<serge.hallyn-GeWIH/nMZzLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Hi, I'm sending this email to gauge interest in a lxc development
> mini-conf this summer.  Last year we had many lxc sessions at the
> Ubuntu Developer Conference.  I'm all for doing that again, but
> while that gives us 'free' scheduling and logistics and a nice focus
> on realistic short-term development goals, I fear making it seem
> like ubuntu is trying to hijack lxc, and I don't want to make people
> on fedora, gentoo, etc to feel there is a barrier to their
> attending (*).  Erkan suggested froscon (http://www.froscon.de/), in
> Germany Aug 20-21, as a potential site.
>
> If you're interested in attending and that location is ok with
> you, please let me know.  If you're interested in attending and
> you'd like to suggest another location, please do so.
>

Couple of other alternatives,

1. Linuxtag (its from may 11-14 at Berlin)
2. Plumbers (though its in September)

could also be possibilities. (of course quite selfishly i won't be
able to attend conferences in europe in august, so I am suggesting
other alternatives :-) )

Thanks
Dhaval

Re: 2011 LXC development mini-conf?

[erkan yanar]

Moinsen,

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 06:37:44PM +0100, Dhaval Giani wrote:
> 
> Couple of other alternatives,
> 
> 1. Linuxtag (its from may 11-14 at Berlin)
Afaik they don't provide developer rooms.

> 
> could also be possibilities. (of course quite selfishly i won't be
> able to attend conferences in europe in august, so I am suggesting
> other alternatives :-) )

Hehe:)

-- 
über den grenzen muß die freiheit wohl wolkenlos sein 

Re: 2011 LXC development mini-conf?

[Dhaval Giani]

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 12:56 PM, erkan yanar <erkan.yanar-z+G3R6qIeCAZId6A0yLOdQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Moinsen,
>
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 06:37:44PM +0100, Dhaval Giani wrote:
>>
>> Couple of other alternatives,
>>
>> 1. Linuxtag (its from may 11-14 at Berlin)
> Afaik they don't provide developer rooms.
>

We could just grab some place there? Its a pretty large area from what
I remember.

Thanks,
Dhaval

Re: 2011 LXC development mini-conf?

[erkan yanar]

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 12:57:49PM +0100, Dhaval Giani wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 12:56 PM, erkan yanar <erkan.yanar-z+G3R6qIeCAZId6A0yLOdQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > Moinsen,
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 06:37:44PM +0100, Dhaval Giani wrote:
> >>
> >> Couple of other alternatives,
> >>
> >> 1. Linuxtag (its from may 11-14 at Berlin)
> > Afaik they don't provide developer rooms.
> >
> 
> We could just grab some place there? Its a pretty large area from what
> I remember.
> 
Right,
the good thing about FrOSCon's dev-rooms is we are in the schedule also and
could reach some other peoples.
Ive got to confess my focus is also to do some talks and start
discussion with a lot users to find new? doings.

le
erkan

-- 
über den grenzen muß die freiheit wohl wolkenlos sein 

Re: 2011 LXC development mini-conf?

[Dave Walker]

On 11/03/11 11:57, Dhaval Giani wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 12:56 PM, erkan yanar<erkan.yanar-z+G3R6qIeCAZId6A0yLOdQ@public.gmane.org>  wrote:
>> Moinsen,
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 06:37:44PM +0100, Dhaval Giani wrote:
>>> Couple of other alternatives,
>>>
>>> 1. Linuxtag (its from may 11-14 at Berlin)
>> Afaik they don't provide developer rooms.
>>
> We could just grab some place there? Its a pretty large area from what
> I remember.
>
> Thanks,
> Dhaval

Hi,

Sadly, Serge and myself will not be able to attend LinuxTag this year; 
it clashes with our platform developer summit (UDS). :(

Kind Regards,
Dave Walker

Re: 2011 LXC development mini-conf?

[Chuck Short]

On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:59:56 +0000
Dave Walker <DaveWalker-GeWIH/nMZzLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> On 11/03/11 11:57, Dhaval Giani wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 12:56 PM, erkan
> > yanar<erkan.yanar-z+G3R6qIeCAZId6A0yLOdQ@public.gmane.org>  wrote:
> >> Moinsen,
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 06:37:44PM +0100, Dhaval Giani wrote:
> >>> Couple of other alternatives,
> >>>
> >>> 1. Linuxtag (its from may 11-14 at Berlin)
> >> Afaik they don't provide developer rooms.
> >>
> > We could just grab some place there? Its a pretty large area from
> > what I remember.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dhaval
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Sadly, Serge and myself will not be able to attend LinuxTag this
> year; it clashes with our platform developer summit (UDS). :(
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Dave Walker


Hi,

Can I suggest linuxcon in August?

chuck

Re: 2011 LXC development mini-conf?

[Serge E. Hallyn]

Quoting Chuck Short (chuck.short-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org):
> Hi,
> 
> Can I suggest linuxcon in August?

One reason I liked the idea of a shorter conf in Europe was that
plumber's and linuxcon tend to have other co-located mini-confs,
and so I almost always end up having to try and share my time
between two of them.  I'm pretty sure that linuxcon will have
the security mini-conf again this year.  But that's my problem.

My impression also was that more people would be able to attend
(i.e. pursuade their employers) in Europe than the US.  That
may be a false impression though.

I'd suggest OLS, but I personally can't do May or June.  Of course
someone else can suggest and I'll add it to the list.

So I think we have 3 serious contenders:

	linuxcon in august
	plumber's in august
	froscon in august

I'll sit back and wait for any more suggestions or votes.

-serge

Re: 2011 LXC development mini-conf?

[Serge E. Hallyn]

Quoting Serge E. Hallyn (serge.hallyn-GeWIH/nMZzLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org):
> So I think we have 3 serious contenders:
> 
> 	linuxcon in august
> 	plumber's in august
> 	froscon in august

Dude.

http://lbw2011.wordpress.com/

We could do worse.

-serge

Re: 2011 LXC development mini-conf?

[Daniel Lezcano]

On 03/11/2011 03:28 PM, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> Quoting Serge E. Hallyn (serge.hallyn-GeWIH/nMZzLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org):
>> So I think we have 3 serious contenders:
>>
>> 	linuxcon in august
>> 	plumber's in august
>> 	froscon in august
>
> Dude.
>
> http://lbw2011.wordpress.com/
>

Another one at Strasbourg (France) in July 9-14

http://2011.rmll.info/appel.html

Re: 2011 LXC development mini-conf?

[Serge E. Hallyn]

Quoting Daniel Lezcano (dlezcano-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org):
> On 03/11/2011 03:28 PM, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> >Quoting Serge E. Hallyn (serge.hallyn-GeWIH/nMZzLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org):
> >>So I think we have 3 serious contenders:
> >>
> >>	linuxcon in august
> >>	plumber's in august
> >>	froscon in august
> >
> >Dude.
> >
> >http://lbw2011.wordpress.com/
> >
> 
> Another one at Strasbourg (France) in July 9-14
> 
> http://2011.rmll.info/appel.html

Do they actually have space for mini-confs?  I get the sense it is mainly
for paper presentations.

-serge

Re: 2011 LXC development mini-conf?

[Dhaval Giani]

>
> Hi,
>
> Can I suggest linuxcon in August?
>

linuxcon seems to be pretty expensive. (at least i can somehow try to
get funding for LPC since a lot of other important groups of
developers are present there, but for linuxcon it will be harder).

Dhaval