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From: "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@kernel.org>
To: Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Harry Yoo <harry@kernel.org>, Usama Arif <usama.arif@linux.dev>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Brendan Jackman <brendan.jackman@linux.dev>,
	Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>, Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	stable@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] mm: page_alloc: make defrag_mode retries follow the promoted order
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2026 20:15:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1f765ae3-434c-4e65-b749-c1e71cce7f33@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <as5q14OsbK2CmOrh@thinkstation>

On 10/13/26 19:37, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2026 at 07:28:34PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
>> On Mon, 12 Oct 2026 13:40:36 +0200 "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@kernel.org> wrote:
>> 
>> > > In a VM reproducer (32G, defrag_mode, inode churn under memory.low):
>> > > 
>> > >                                         before    after
>> > >     should_reclaim_retry() calls           63M     293k
>> > >     peak memory pressure (PSI some avg10)  99%      12%
>> > > 
>> > > File creation runs 5.7x faster.
>> > > 
>> > > Fixes: 7e8756d7ad22 ("mm: page_alloc: fix non-movable reclaim storm in defrag_mode")
>> > > Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
>> > > Assisted-by: LLM
>> > > Signed-off-by: Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta) <kas@kernel.org>
>> > 
>> > LGTM, but I think we could simplify and get rid of all the function
>> > parameter additions by adding a field to alloc_context instead? We could
>> > call it e.g. reclaim_compact_order.
>> > 
>> > The function nofrag_promote_order() probably doesn't need to exist, given it
>> > has just one caller, could be just open coded.
>> > 
>> > What could be useful instead is wrapper for comparing order vs
>> > ac->reclaim_compact_order. E.g. something like bool
>> > order_nofrag_promoted(order, ac) ?
>> 
>> I'm concerned about the sheer size of this patch.  It fixes significant
>> issues, but it's not going to be a simple or safe backport.
>> 
>> So for now please let's optimize for simplicity and backportability and
>> defer cleanups for the -rc cycle.
>> 
>> Of course, if the changes you suggest achieve that then go for it.
> 
> They do. The patch with Vlastimil's suggestion is below. It is shorter.
> Behaviour is unchanged; the reproducer gives the same results on both
> versions.
> 
> Vlastimil, does it look like what you had in mind?

Yeah LGTM.

Reviewed-by: Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) <vbabka@kernel.org>

> 
>> Perhaps we should defer this change into next -rc?  It has cc:stable so
>> it'll eventually end up where we want it.
> 
> Do you mean the next -rc cycle? I hoped to get it into 7.4-rc1, as we
> agreed earlier.

We're fixing a 7.3 commit that went into the stable trees. Too late to rush
for the 7.3 final though. The impact is mitigated by defrag_mode not being
default, so it's fine to fix it in 7.3.x. Thus 7.4-rc1 would be great, rc2
could also work, but wouldn't delay more. I read the merge window might be 3
weeks this time [1] so perhaps rc1 is comfortable in any case.

[1] https://lwn.net/Articles/1099594

> 
> ----------------------------------->8----------------------------------
> 
> From: "Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)" <kas@kernel.org>
> Subject: [PATCH v4] mm: page_alloc: make defrag_mode retries follow the promoted order
> 
> Since commit 7e8756d7ad22 ("mm: page_alloc: fix non-movable reclaim
> storm in defrag_mode"), direct reclaim and compaction for non-movable
> requests under defrag_mode run at pageblock_order, to produce the whole
> blocks that ALLOC_NOFRAGMENT needs. The retry decisions that follow
> still use the request order. An order-0 request can therefore retry
> indefinitely without ever reaching the ALLOC_NOFRAGMENT fallback:
> 
> - Reclaim at pageblock_order gives up after one pass as soon as a zone
>   looks compaction_ready(), and do_try_to_free_pages() then returns 1
>   even though nothing was reclaimed. It returns before the retry that
>   would reclaim memory.low-protected cgroups, so when most memory is
>   protected, the pass that did run finds next to nothing.
> 
> - Compaction at pageblock_order fails or is deferred.
> 
> - should_reclaim_retry() takes the reported progress as progress for
>   the order-0 request and resets no_progress_loops. The request
>   retries.
> 
> Order 1-3 requests loop the same way, and should_compact_retry() also
> checks their pageblock_order compaction result against the request
> order.
> 
> On a production host (64G, defrag_mode, memory.low covering most of the
> workload), 95% of direct reclaim runs were order-9 runs that returned 1
> with nothing reclaimed, at up to 60k runs per second. Across ~200M
> should_reclaim_retry() calls in a day, no_progress_loops never left 0.
> The spinning allocations were SLUB slab refills for inode and dentry
> caches. The time spent registers as memory pressure, and pressure-based
> OOM killing takes down both workloads and system services.
> 
> For promoted requests:
> 
> - Reclaim progress does not reset no_progress_loops, as for costly
>   orders.
> 
> - should_compact_retry() checks the compaction result at the promoted
>   order and does not retry COMPACT_SKIPPED, since the request can fall
>   back. The compaction priority floor and the COMPACT_SUCCESS retry
>   limit stay those of the request order, so a non-costly request still
>   gets its COMPACT_PRIO_SYNC_FULL pass before it falls back.
> 
> When a promoted request takes the fallback, reset the retry counters,
> so that the fallback attempt gets a full retry budget before the OOM
> killer is considered. A request whose reclaim was not promoted spent
> its budget on the request itself and keeps its counters, as Usama Arif
> pointed out.
> 
> __alloc_pages_slowpath() computes the promoted order once per iteration
> and keeps it in alloc_context for direct reclaim, direct compaction and
> the two retry helpers, so no callee has to recompute it. Harry Yoo asked
> for the promoted order to be explicit rather than derived in each
> callee, and Vlastimil Babka suggested alloc_context over new function
> parameters.
> 
> In a VM reproducer (32G, defrag_mode, inode churn under memory.low):
> 
>                                         before    after
>     should_reclaim_retry() calls           63M     293k
>     peak memory pressure (PSI some avg10)  99%      12%
> 
> File creation runs 5.7x faster.
> 
> Fixes: 7e8756d7ad22 ("mm: page_alloc: fix non-movable reclaim storm in defrag_mode")
> Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
> Assisted-by: LLM
> Signed-off-by: Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta) <kas@kernel.org>
> ---
> v4:
>  - keep the promoted order in alloc_context instead of passing it as a
>    new parameter (Vlastimil Babka)
> 
>  mm/page_alloc.c | 65 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--------------------
>  mm/page_alloc.h |  2 ++
>  2 files changed, 41 insertions(+), 26 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/mm/page_alloc.c b/mm/page_alloc.c
> index 12fac9084c48..c593913a14f8 100644
> --- a/mm/page_alloc.c
> +++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
> @@ -4127,6 +4127,12 @@ __alloc_pages_may_oom(gfp_t gfp_mask, unsigned int order,
>  	return page;
>  }
>  
> +static inline bool order_nofrag_promoted(unsigned int order,
> +					 const struct alloc_context *ac)
> +{
> +	return ac->reclaim_compact_order != order;
> +}
> +
>  /*
>   * Maximum number of compaction retries with a progress before OOM
>   * killer is consider as the only way to move forward.
> @@ -4149,22 +4155,7 @@ __alloc_pages_direct_compact(gfp_t gfp_mask, unsigned int order,
>  		.order = order,
>  		.page = NULL,
>  	};
> -	int compact_order = order;
> -
> -	/*
> -	 * If fallbacks are not permitted (defrag_mode), we either
> -	 * need to reclaim space in a block of matching type, or clear
> -	 * out an entire block to allow __rmqueue_claim() to convert.
> -	 *
> -	 * Reclaim by itself is primarily freeing space in movable
> -	 * blocks, since that's where the LRU pages live. So this
> -	 * works for movable requests, but not for others.
> -	 *
> -	 * For those, promote the order to help make blocks, instead
> -	 * of spinning in reclaim alone unproductively.
> -	 */
> -	if ((alloc_flags & ALLOC_NOFRAGMENT) && ac->migratetype != MIGRATE_MOVABLE)
> -		compact_order = max(order, pageblock_order);
> +	int compact_order = ac->reclaim_compact_order;
>  
>  	if (!compact_order)
>  		return NULL;
> @@ -4257,7 +4248,7 @@ should_compact_retry(gfp_t gfp_mask, struct alloc_context *ac, int order,
>  	int retries = *compaction_retries;
>  	enum compact_priority priority = *compact_priority;
>  
> -	if (!order)
> +	if (!ac->reclaim_compact_order)
>  		return false;
>  
>  	if (fatal_signal_pending(current))
> @@ -4266,10 +4257,12 @@ should_compact_retry(gfp_t gfp_mask, struct alloc_context *ac, int order,
>  	/*
>  	 * Compaction was skipped due to a lack of free order-0
>  	 * migration targets. Continue if reclaim can help.
> +	 * Promoted requests fall back instead.
>  	 */
>  	if (compact_result == COMPACT_SKIPPED) {
> -		ret = compaction_zonelist_suitable(ac, order, alloc_flags,
> -						   gfp_mask);
> +		if (!order_nofrag_promoted(order, ac))
> +			ret = compaction_zonelist_suitable(ac, order,
> +							   alloc_flags, gfp_mask);
>  		goto out;
>  	}
>  
> @@ -4468,11 +4461,7 @@ __alloc_pages_direct_reclaim(gfp_t gfp_mask, unsigned int order,
>  	struct page *page = NULL;
>  	unsigned long pflags;
>  	bool drained = false;
> -	int reclaim_order = order;
> -
> -	/* Match the slowpath compaction promotion in __alloc_pages_direct_compact */
> -	if ((alloc_flags & ALLOC_NOFRAGMENT) && ac->migratetype != MIGRATE_MOVABLE)
> -		reclaim_order = max(order, pageblock_order);
> +	int reclaim_order = ac->reclaim_compact_order;
>  
>  	psi_memstall_enter(&pflags);
>  	*did_some_progress = __perform_reclaim(gfp_mask, reclaim_order, ac);
> @@ -4648,9 +4637,12 @@ should_reclaim_retry(gfp_t gfp_mask, unsigned order,
>  	/*
>  	 * Costly allocations might have made a progress but this doesn't mean
>  	 * their order will become available due to high fragmentation so
> -	 * always increment the no progress counter for them
> +	 * always increment the no progress counter for them. The same goes for
> +	 * promoted requests: their reclaim reports progress when it backs off
> +	 * for compaction without freeing anything.
>  	 */
> -	if (did_some_progress && order <= PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER)
> +	if (did_some_progress && order <= PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER &&
> +	    !order_nofrag_promoted(order, ac))
>  		*no_progress_loops = 0;
>  	else
>  		(*no_progress_loops)++;
> @@ -4934,6 +4926,22 @@ __alloc_pages_slowpath(gfp_t gfp_mask, unsigned int order,
>  	/* If allocation has taken excessively long, warn about it */
>  	check_alloc_stall_warn(gfp_mask, ac->nodemask, order, alloc_start_time);
>  
> +	/*
> +	 * If fallbacks are not permitted (defrag_mode), we either
> +	 * need to reclaim space in a block of matching type, or clear
> +	 * out an entire block to allow __rmqueue_claim() to convert.
> +	 *
> +	 * Reclaim by itself is primarily freeing space in movable
> +	 * blocks, since that's where the LRU pages live. So this
> +	 * works for movable requests, but not for others.
> +	 *
> +	 * For those, promote the order to help make blocks, instead
> +	 * of spinning in reclaim alone unproductively.
> +	 */
> +	ac->reclaim_compact_order = order;
> +	if ((alloc_flags & ALLOC_NOFRAGMENT) && ac->migratetype != MIGRATE_MOVABLE)
> +		ac->reclaim_compact_order = max(order, pageblock_order);
> +
>  	/* Try direct reclaim and then allocating */
>  	if (!compact_first) {
>  		page = __alloc_pages_direct_reclaim(gfp_mask, order, alloc_flags,
> @@ -5015,6 +5023,11 @@ __alloc_pages_slowpath(gfp_t gfp_mask, unsigned int order,
>  	/* Reclaim/compaction failed to prevent the fallback */
>  	if (defrag_mode && (alloc_flags & ALLOC_NOFRAGMENT)) {
>  		alloc_flags &= ~ALLOC_NOFRAGMENT;
> +		/* Retries went into making blocks, start the fallback afresh */
> +		if (order_nofrag_promoted(order, ac)) {
> +			no_progress_loops = 0;
> +			compaction_retries = 0;
> +		}
>  		goto retry;
>  	}
>  
> diff --git a/mm/page_alloc.h b/mm/page_alloc.h
> index b9259deddb59..2b1017a91928 100644
> --- a/mm/page_alloc.h
> +++ b/mm/page_alloc.h
> @@ -93,6 +93,8 @@ struct alloc_context {
>  	bool spread_dirty_pages;
>  	/* Only flags that are global to the whole allocation go here. */
>  	unsigned int alloc_flags;
> +	/* Set by __alloc_pages_slowpath() before reclaim and compaction */
> +	unsigned int reclaim_compact_order;
>  };
>  
>  /*



      reply	other threads:[~2026-10-13 18:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-09 12:55 [PATCH v3] mm: page_alloc: make defrag_mode retries follow the promoted order Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-10-09 14:05 ` Usama Arif
2026-10-10 22:49 ` Andrew Morton
2026-10-12 10:17   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-10-12 11:40 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-10-13  2:28   ` Andrew Morton
2026-10-13 17:37     ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-10-13 18:15       ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) [this message]

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