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From: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
Cc: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>,
	Hans Reiser <hans@reiser.to>, bert hubert <ahu@ds9a.nl>,
	linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu, Chris Mason <mason@suse.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: journaling & VM  (was: Re: reiserfs being part of the kernel: it's not just the code)
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 11:10:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20000607111033.B29432@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0006061956360.7328-100000@duckman.distro.conectiva>; from riel@conectiva.com.br on Tue, Jun 06, 2000 at 08:06:38PM -0300

Hi,

On Tue, Jun 06, 2000 at 08:06:38PM -0300, Rik van Riel wrote:
> 
> > journaling itself, but the transactional requirements which are
> > the problem --- basically the VM cannot do _anything_ about
> > individual pages which are pinned by a transaction, but rather
> > we need a way to trigger a filesystem flush, AND to prevent more
> > dirtying of pages by the filesystem (these are two distinct
> > problems), or we just lock up under load on lower memory boxes.
> 
> This is especially tricky in the case of a large mmap()ed
> file. We'll have to restrict the maximum number of read-write
> mapped pages from such a file in order to keep the system
> stable...

We need to restrict *all* pinned pages.  That includes writable
pages on a transactional filesystem, but also includes metadata
being used as part of an existing transaction, as well as any
potential metadata which *might* be used in the future by that
transaction.

> Indeed we need this. Since I seem to be coordinating the VM
> changes at the moment anyway, I'd love to work together with
> the journaling folks on solving this problem...

OK, I'll look up the old writeups I did with Chris about this.

Cheers,
 Stephen
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2000-06-07 10:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.10.10006060811120.15888-100000@dax.joh.cam.ac.uk>
     [not found] ` <393CA40C.648D3261@reiser.to>
     [not found]   ` <20000606114851.A30672@home.ds9a.nl>
     [not found]     ` <393CBBB8.554A0D2A@reiser.to>
     [not found]       ` <20000606172606.I25794@redhat.com>
     [not found]         ` <393D37D1.1BC61DC3@reiser.to>
     [not found]           ` <20000606205447.T23701@redhat.com>
2000-06-06 23:06             ` journaling & VM (was: Re: reiserfs being part of the kernel: it's not just the code) Rik van Riel
2000-06-07  1:19               ` journaling & VM (was: Re: reiserfs being part of the kernel: it'snot " Hans Reiser
2000-06-07  1:46                 ` Quintela Carreira Juan J.
2000-06-07  3:45                   ` Hans Reiser
2000-06-07 11:15                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 13:23                       ` Rik van Riel
2000-06-07 13:41                         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 14:27                           ` Rik van Riel
2000-06-07 14:46                             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 14:51                               ` bert hubert
2000-06-07 15:20                               ` Quintela Carreira Juan J.
2000-06-07 15:35                                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 15:41                                   ` Rik van Riel
2000-06-07 15:44                                   ` Juan J. Quintela
2000-06-07 17:10                                   ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-06-07 17:14                                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 17:21                                       ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-06-07 20:16                                   ` Hans Reiser
2000-06-07 21:20                                     ` Rik van Riel
2000-06-07 21:52                                       ` journaling & VM Hans Reiser
2000-06-07 22:11                                         ` James Sutherland
2000-06-07 22:29                                           ` Rik van Riel
2000-06-08  1:11                                         ` Neil Schemenauer
2000-06-08  1:29                                           ` Rik van Riel
2000-06-07 20:16                                 ` journaling & VM (was: Re: reiserfs being part of the kernel: it'snot just the code) Hans Reiser
2000-06-07 20:54                                   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 21:29                                     ` Hans Reiser
2000-06-07 21:31                                       ` Rik van Riel
2000-06-07 21:33                                       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 22:20                                         ` journaling & VM Hans Reiser
2000-06-07 21:50                                       ` journaling & VM (was: Re: reiserfs being part of the kernel: it'snot just the code) Juan J. Quintela
2000-06-07 19:02                         ` journaling & VM (was: Re: reiserfs being part of the kernel:it'snot " Hans Reiser
2000-06-07 13:40                       ` journaling & VM (was: Re: reiserfs being part of the kernel: it'snot " Chris Mason
2000-06-07 13:47                         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 11:12                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 16:35                   ` journaling & VM John Fremlin
2000-06-07 17:11                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
     [not found]                       ` <20000608114435.A15433@uni-koblenz.de>
2000-06-08 21:29                         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-09 11:53                           ` Ralf Baechle
2000-06-07 17:48                   ` journaling & VM (was: Re: reiserfs being part of the kernel: it'snot just the code) Hans Reiser
2000-06-07 18:01                     ` Rik van Riel
2000-06-07 19:58                       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 20:56                         ` Juan J. Quintela
2000-06-07 21:14                           ` Rik van Riel
2000-06-07 21:24                           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 21:40                             ` Juan J. Quintela
2000-06-07 21:49                               ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 22:00                                 ` Juan J. Quintela
2000-06-07 22:22                                 ` Manfred Spraul
2000-06-09 15:08                                   ` Rik van Riel
2000-06-09 16:52                                     ` Manfred Spraul
2000-06-09 17:23                                       ` Rik van Riel
2000-06-09 18:26                                         ` journaling & VM (was: Re: reiserfs being part of the kernel:it'snot " Manfred Spraul
2000-06-07 22:28                                 ` journaling & VM (was: Re: reiserfs being part of the kernel: it'snot " Hans Reiser
2000-06-07 10:10               ` Stephen C. Tweedie [this message]
     [not found]             ` <393DACC8.5DB60A81@reiser.to>
2000-06-07 11:00               ` reiserfs being part of the kernel: it's not just the code Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 17:11                 ` Rik van Riel
2000-06-07 17:13                   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 17:46                 ` Hans Reiser
2000-06-07 19:53                   ` Stephen C. Tweedie

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