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From: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
To: Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	"Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>,
	Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexander Viro <aviro@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <andrewm@uow.edu.au>, Alan Cox <alan@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Rohland <cr@sap.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
	MOLNAR Ingo <mingo@chiara.elte.hu>
Subject: Re: test12-pre5
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 23:15:04 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20001205231504.I10663@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012051144060.2178-100000@penguin.transmeta.com> <Pine.GSO.4.21.0012051502140.12284-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0012051502140.12284-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>; from viro@math.psu.edu on Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 03:17:07PM -0500

Hi,

On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 03:17:07PM -0500, Alexander Viro wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> > And this is not just a "it happens to be like this" kind of thing. It
> > _has_ to be like this, because every time we call clear_inode() we are
> > going to physically free the memory associated with the inode very soon
> > afterwards. Which means that _any_ use of the inode had better be long
> > gone. Dirty buffers included.
> 
> Urgh. Linus, AFAICS we _all_ agree on that. The only real question is
> whether we consider calling clear_inode() with droppable dirty buffers
> to be OK. It can't happen on the dispose_list() path and I'ld rather
> see it _not_ happening on the delete_inode() one. It's a policy question,
> not the correctness one.

Right, because if we get this wrong, the kernel won't complain, but
we'll have a rare, impossible-to-diagnose potential data corrupter for
any applications which do recovery on reboot.  

If we're not going to change the code, then at the very least a huge
warning comment above clear_inode() is necessary to make it explicit
that you shouldn't ever pass in an inode with dirty buffers unless
nlink==0, and I'd rather see the BUG there instead.

--Stephen
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  reply	other threads:[~2000-12-06  0:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-12-05  3:20 test12-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2000-12-05  3:42 ` test12-pre5 Alexander Viro
2000-12-05  4:00   ` test12-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2000-12-05  4:25     ` test12-pre5 Alexander Viro
2000-12-05 17:09     ` test12-pre5 Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-12-05 17:28       ` test12-pre5 Alexander Viro
2000-12-05 17:48       ` test12-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2000-12-05 18:14         ` test12-pre5 Alexander Viro
2000-12-05 18:33           ` test12-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2000-12-05 18:59             ` test12-pre5 Alexander Viro
2000-12-05 19:48               ` test12-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2000-12-05 20:17                 ` test12-pre5 Alexander Viro
2000-12-05 23:15                   ` Stephen C. Tweedie [this message]
2000-12-05 18:50         ` test12-pre5 Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-12-05  5:30 ` test12-pre5 Mohammad A. Haque
2000-12-05  7:51 ` test12-pre5 Andrew Morton
2000-12-05 15:48 ` test12-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2000-12-05 23:25 ` smbfs writepage & struct file Urban Widmark
2000-12-05 23:57   ` Linus Torvalds
2000-12-06 10:05     ` Trond Myklebust
2000-12-10 13:43     ` Urban Widmark
2000-12-06 13:18 ` test12-pre5 Panu Matilainen
     [not found] <00120522275601.09076@gimli>
2000-12-05 21:58 ` test12-pre5 Linus Torvalds

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