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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@caldera.de>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
Cc: mingo@elte.hu, riel@conectiva.com.br, netdev@oss.sgi.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PLEASE-TESTME] Zerocopy networking patch, 2.4.0-1
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:28:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010109122810.A3115@caldera.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0101081603080.21675-100000@duckman.distro.conectiva> <Pine.LNX.4.30.0101091051460.1159-100000@e2> <20010109113145.A28758@caldera.de> <200101091031.CAA01242@pizda.ninka.net>
In-Reply-To: <200101091031.CAA01242@pizda.ninka.net>; from davem@redhat.com on Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 02:31:13AM -0800

On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 02:31:13AM -0800, David S. Miller wrote:
>    Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 11:31:45 +0100
>    From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@caldera.de>
> 
>    Yuck.  A new file_opo just to get a few benchmarks right ...  I
>    hope the writepages stuff will not be merged in Linus tree (but I
>    wish the code behind it!)
> 
> It's a "I know how to send a page somewhere via this filedescriptor
> all by myself" operation.  I don't see why people need to take
> painkillers over this for 2.4.x.  I think f_op->write is stupid, such
> a special case file operation just to get a few benchmarks right.
> This is the kind of argument I am hearing.
> 
> Orthogonal to f_op->write being for specifying a low-level
> implementation of sys_write, f_op->writepage is for specifying a
> low-level implementation of sys_sendfile.  Can you grok that?

Sure.  But sendfile is not one of the fundamental UNIX operations...
If there was no alternative to this I would probably have not said
anything, but with the rw_kiovec file op just before the door I don't
see any reason to add this _very_ specific file operation.

An alloc_kiovec before and an free_kiovec after the actual call
and the memory overhaed of a kiobuf won't hurt so much that it stands
against a clean interface, IMHO.


> 
> Linus has already seen this.  Originally he had a gripe because in an
> older revision of the code used to allow multiple pages to be passed
> in an array to the writepage(s) operation.  He didn't like that, so I
> made it take only one page as he requested.  He had no other major
> objections to the infrastructure.

You get that multiple page call with kiobufs for free...

	Christoph

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  reply	other threads:[~2001-01-09 11:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-01-08  1:24 [PLEASE-TESTME] Zerocopy networking patch, 2.4.0-1 David S. Miller
2001-01-08 10:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-01-08 10:34   ` David S. Miller
2001-01-08 18:05     ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-08 21:07       ` David S. Miller
2001-01-09 10:23       ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 10:31         ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-01-09 10:31           ` David S. Miller
2001-01-09 11:28             ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2001-01-09 11:42               ` David S. Miller
2001-01-09 12:04               ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 14:25                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-09 14:33                   ` Alan Cox
2001-01-09 15:00                   ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 15:27                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-09 16:16                       ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 16:37                         ` Alan Cox
2001-01-09 16:48                           ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 17:29                             ` Alan Cox
2001-01-09 17:38                               ` Jens Axboe
2001-01-09 18:38                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 19:54                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-09 20:10                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-10  0:00                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-09 20:12                                     ` Jens Axboe
2001-01-09 23:20                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-09 23:34                                         ` Jens Axboe
2001-01-09 23:52                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-17  5:16                                     ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-09 17:56                             ` Chris Evans
2001-01-09 18:41                               ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 22:58                                 ` [patch]: ac4 blk (was Re: [PLEASE-TESTME] Zerocopy networking patch, 2.4.0-1) Jens Axboe
2001-01-09 19:20                           ` [PLEASE-TESTME] Zerocopy networking patch, 2.4.0-1 J Sloan
2001-01-09 18:10                         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-09 15:38                     ` Benjamin C.R. LaHaise
2001-01-09 16:40                       ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 17:30                         ` Benjamin C.R. LaHaise
2001-01-09 18:12                           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-09 18:35                           ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 17:53                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-01-09 21:13                   ` David S. Miller
2001-01-09 19:14               ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-09 20:07                 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 20:15                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-09 20:36                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-01-09 20:55                       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-09 21:12                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-01-09 21:26                           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-10  7:42                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-01-10  8:05                               ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-10  8:33                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-01-10  8:37                                 ` Andrew Morton
2001-01-10 23:32                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-19 15:55                                     ` Andrew Scott
2001-01-17 14:05                               ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-18  0:53                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-01-18  1:13                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-18 17:50                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-01-18 18:04                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-18 21:12                                     ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-01-19  1:52                                       ` 2.4.1-pre8 video/ohci1394 compile problem ebi4
2001-01-19  6:55                                       ` [PLEASE-TESTME] Zerocopy networking patch, 2.4.0-1 Linus Torvalds
2001-01-09 23:06                         ` Benjamin C.R. LaHaise
2001-01-09 23:54                           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-10  7:51                             ` Gerd Knorr
2001-01-12  1:42                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-09 11:05           ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 18:27             ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-01-09 19:19               ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 14:18         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-09 14:40           ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 14:51             ` Alan Cox
2001-01-09 15:17             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-09 15:37               ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 21:18               ` David S. Miller
2001-01-09 22:25               ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-10 15:21                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-09 15:25             ` Stephen Frost
2001-01-09 15:40               ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 15:48                 ` Stephen Frost
2001-01-10  1:14                 ` Dave Zarzycki
2001-01-10  1:14                   ` David S. Miller
2001-01-10  2:18                     ` Dave Zarzycki
2001-01-10  1:19                   ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-10  2:56         ` storage over IP (was Re: [PLEASE-TESTME] Zerocopy networking patch, 2.4.0-1) dean gaudet
2001-01-10  2:58           ` David S. Miller
2001-01-10  3:18             ` dean gaudet
2001-01-10  3:09               ` David S. Miller
2001-01-10  3:05           ` storage over IP (was Re: [PLEASE-TESTME] Zerocopy networking patch, Alan Cox
2001-01-08 21:56 ` [PLEASE-TESTME] Zerocopy networking patch, 2.4.0-1 Jes Sorensen
2001-01-08 21:48   ` David S. Miller
2001-01-08 22:32     ` Jes Sorensen
2001-01-08 22:36       ` David S. Miller
2001-01-09 12:12         ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-08 22:43       ` Stephen Frost
2001-01-08 22:37         ` David S. Miller
2001-01-09 13:52 ` Trond Myklebust
2001-01-09 13:42   ` David S. Miller
2001-01-09 15:27     ` Trond Myklebust
2001-01-09 21:19       ` David S. Miller
2001-01-10  9:21         ` Trond Myklebust
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-01-09 13:08 Stephen Landamore
2001-01-09 13:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 13:47   ` Andrew Morton
2001-01-09 19:15     ` Dan Hollis
2001-01-09 19:14   ` Dan Hollis
2001-01-09 22:03     ` David S. Miller
2001-01-09 22:58       ` Dan Hollis
2001-01-09 22:59         ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-09 23:11           ` Dan Hollis
2001-01-10  3:24           ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-01-09 17:46 Manfred Spraul
2001-01-10  8:41 Manfred Spraul
2001-01-10  8:31 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-10 11:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-10 12:03   ` Manfred Spraul
2001-01-10 12:07     ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-10 16:18       ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-13 15:43 ` yodaiken

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