From: yodaiken@fsmlabs.com
To: Jay Ts <jay@toltec.metran.cx>
Cc: Andrew Morton <andrewm@uow.edu.au>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
lad <linux-audio-dev@ginette.musique.umontreal.ca>,
xpert@xfree86.org,
"mcrichto@mpp.ecs.umass.edu" <mcrichto@mpp.ecs.umass.edu>
Subject: Re: [linux-audio-dev] low-latency scheduling patch for 2.4.0
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 17:10:45 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010120171045.B15918@hq.fsmlabs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3A5D994A.1568A4D5@uow.edu.au> <200101130245.TAA02910@toltec.metran.cx>
In-Reply-To: <200101130245.TAA02910@toltec.metran.cx>; from Jay Ts on Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 07:45:43PM -0700
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 07:45:43PM -0700, Jay Ts wrote:
> Andrew Morton wrote:
> >
> > Jay Ts wrote:
> > >
> > > Now about the only thing left is to get it included
> > > in the standard kernel. Do you think Linus Torvalds is more likely
> > > to accept these patches than Ingo's? I sure hope this one works out.
> >
> > We (or "he") need to decide up-front that Linux is to become
> > a low latency kernel. Then we need to decide the best way of
> > doing that.
> >
> > Making the kernel internally preemptive is probably the best way of
> > doing this. But it's a *big* task
>
> Ouch. Yes, I agree that the ideal path is for Linus and the other
> kernel developers and ... well, just about everyone ... is to create
> a long-range strategy and 'roadmap' that includes support for low-latency.
>
> And making the kernel preemptive might be the best way to do that
> (and I'm saying "might"...).
Keep in mind that Ken Thompson & Dennis Ritchie did not decide on a
non-preemptive strategy for UNIX because they were unaware of such
methods or because they were stupid. And when Rob Pike redesigned a new
"unix" Plan9 note there is no-preemptive kernel, and the core Linux
designers have rejected preemptive kernels too. Now it is certainly possible
that things have change and/or all these folks are just plain wrong. But
I wouldn't bet too much on it.
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Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-01-07 2:53 low-latency scheduling patch for 2.4.0 Andrew Morton
2001-01-11 3:12 ` [linux-audio-dev] " Jay Ts
2001-01-11 3:22 ` Cort Dougan
2001-01-11 12:38 ` Alan Cox
2001-01-11 11:30 ` Andrew Morton
2001-01-11 5:19 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-11 13:57 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-01-11 20:55 ` Nigel Gamble
2001-01-11 21:31 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-15 5:27 ` george anzinger
2001-01-12 13:30 ` Andrew Morton
2001-01-12 15:11 ` Tim Wright
2001-01-12 22:30 ` Nigel Gamble
2001-01-13 1:01 ` Andrew Morton
2001-01-15 19:46 ` Tim Wright
2001-01-12 22:46 ` Nigel Gamble
2001-01-12 23:08 ` george anzinger
2001-01-21 0:05 ` yodaiken
2001-01-22 0:54 ` Nigel Gamble
2001-01-22 1:49 ` Paul Barton-Davis
2001-01-22 2:21 ` Nigel Gamble
2001-01-22 3:31 ` J Sloan
2001-01-28 13:14 ` yodaiken
2001-01-28 14:07 ` Bill Huey
2001-01-28 14:26 ` Andrew Morton
2001-01-29 5:02 ` yodaiken
2001-01-28 14:19 ` Andrew Morton
2001-01-28 16:17 ` Joe deBlaquiere
2001-01-29 15:44 ` yodaiken
2001-01-29 17:23 ` Joe deBlaquiere
2001-01-29 17:38 ` yodaiken
2001-01-29 18:03 ` Joe deBlaquiere
2001-01-30 15:08 ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-30 15:44 ` Joe deBlaquiere
2001-01-30 16:29 ` Paul Davis
2001-01-30 16:35 ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-31 7:55 ` george anzinger
2001-01-30 16:19 ` David Woodhouse
2001-02-01 12:40 ` Pavel Machek
2001-02-01 22:33 ` David Woodhouse
2001-02-02 4:17 ` Joe deBlaquiere
2001-01-30 20:51 ` yodaiken
2001-01-30 21:00 ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-29 22:08 ` Pavel Machek
2001-01-29 22:31 ` Roger Larsson
2001-01-29 23:46 ` Joe deBlaquiere
2001-01-30 15:08 ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-12 13:21 ` Andrew Morton
2001-01-13 2:45 ` Jay Ts
2001-01-21 0:10 ` yodaiken [this message]
2001-01-26 9:14 ` Pavel Machek
2001-01-13 18:11 ` video drivers hog pci bus ? [was:[linux-audio-dev] low-latency scheduling patch for 2.4.0] Jörn Nettingsmeier
2001-01-14 11:35 ` low-latency scheduling patch for 2.4.0 Andrew Morton
2001-01-14 14:38 ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-01-15 10:59 ` Andrew Morton
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