From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 00:07:27 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 00:07:18 -0500 Received: from foozle.turbogeek.org ([216.233.172.106]:15624 "EHLO foozle.turbogeek.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 00:07:00 -0500 Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 23:06:53 -0600 From: "Jeremy M. Dolan" To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN Message-ID: <20010125230653.A1850@foozle.turbogeek.org> In-Reply-To: <94qcvm$9qp$1@cesium.transmeta.com> <14960.54069.369317.517425@pizda.ninka.net> <3A70D524.11362EFB@transmeta.com> <14960.54852.630103.360704@pizda.ninka.net> <3A70D7B2.F8C5F67C@transmeta.com> <14960.56461.296642.488513@pizda.ninka.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <14960.56461.296642.488513@pizda.ninka.net>; from davem@redhat.com on Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 06:10:21PM -0800 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 18:10:21 +0000, David S. Miller wrote: > It says "reserved for future use, must be zero". While I've not checked the context yet, this seems to be terrible wording. The context doesn't direct this towards hosts constructing packets? What is the 'It' you refer to, the TCP RFC? Do any of the following override this awful wording job? RFC1122 / STD0003 Requirements for Internet hosts (comm. layers) RFC1123 / STD0003 Requirements for Internet hosts (apps) RFC1009 / STD0004 Requirements for Internet gateways RFC1812 Requirements for IP Version 4 Routers RFC2979 Behavior of and Requirements for Internet Firewalls The last one seems it would have the most potential to clear up this mess, unfortunatly it's only an informational RFC, and at a quick glance, doesn't look like it addresses this issue. Regardless, the intent of the author was clear... it'd just be nice to be able to quote chapter and verse. Besides, I'm MUCH more worried about all of .uk being behind an ECN eating router then not being about to talk to some Microsoft webmail service. I fear this problem is doomed to repeat itself as well, as more of IP's features become unreserved (Class E IP Address, anyone?) /jmd -- Jeremy M. Dolan OpenPGP key = http://turbogeek.org/openpgp-key OpenPGP fingerprint = 494C 7A6E 19FB 026A 1F52 E0D5 5C5D 6228 DC43 3DEE - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/