From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 14:18:09 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 14:17:59 -0500 Received: from mail.zmailer.org ([194.252.70.162]:27147 "EHLO zmailer.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 14:17:41 -0500 Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 21:17:30 +0200 From: Matti Aarnio To: "Henning P. Schmiedehausen" Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN Message-ID: <20010126211730.L25659@mea-ext.zmailer.org> In-Reply-To: , <94sg4o$1o4$1@forge.intermeta.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <94sg4o$1o4$1@forge.intermeta.de>; from hps@tanstaafl.de on Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 06:37:12PM +0000 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 06:37:12PM +0000, Henning P. Schmiedehausen wrote: ... > Cisco: If I buy a _new_ PIIX oder LDIR today, do I get an ECN capable > IOS or not? If not, will my CCNA know about this and upgrade my Box > before deploying? That cisco box is called PIX -- PIIX sounds like some intel thing.. Current baseline binary contains ECN, and CCNA may or may not know it. Oh yes, PIX code is not IOS, it is something else -- because it wasn't Cisco product originally, but something what Cisco bought... I haven't followed up on what Local Directory product it, probably same PC hardware (+ disk) as PIX, but a bit different software suite. > Everyone I know and their brothers, that use Cisco Equipment, have a > support contract with Cisco. Why not push an "mandatory upgrade" along > this path once the ECN leaves "experimental" status. Bruhaha... PIX has MailGuard feature, which fucks up SMTP protocol royally in some old versions. I see that buggy version still running deployed even though fixes were done back in May 1998 ... (http://www.zmailer.org/cisco-pix.html) Why do I see it ? VGER's ZMailer uses extensively that "rare" extended SMTP feature which is where it happens, and my employer runs that same software in couple large ISP SMTP relays.. > Regards > Henning /Matti Aarnio - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/