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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] SMP race in ext2 - metadata corruption.
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 22:14:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010426221445.F819@athlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010426214444.B819@athlon.random> <Pine.GSO.4.21.0104261554050.15385-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu> <20010426221109.E819@athlon.random>
In-Reply-To: <20010426221109.E819@athlon.random>; from andrea@suse.de on Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 10:11:09PM +0200

On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 10:11:09PM +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 03:55:19PM -0400, Alexander Viro wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 26 Apr 2001, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 03:34:00PM -0400, Alexander Viro wrote:
> > > > Same scenario, but with read-in-progress started before we do getblk(). BTW,
> > > 
> > > how can the read in progress see a branch that we didn't spliced yet? We
> > 
> > fd = open("/dev/hda1", O_RDONLY);
> > read(fd, buf, sizeof(buf));
> 
> You misunderstood the context of what I said, I perfectly know the race
> you are talking about, I was answering Linus's question "the
> wait_on_buffer isn't even necessary to protect ext2 against ext2". You
> are talking about the other race that is "ext2" against "block_dev", and
> I obviously agree on that one since the first place as I immediatly
> answered you "correct".
> 
> What I'm saying above is that even without the wait_on_buffer ext2 can
								     ^^^ "cannot" of course
> screwup itself because the splice happens after the buffer are just all
> uptodate so any "reader" (I mean any reader through ext2 not through
> block_dev) will never try to do a bread on that blocks before they're
> just zeroed and uptodate.
> 
> Andrea


Andrea

  reply	other threads:[~2001-04-26 21:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-04-26 15:45 [PATCH] SMP race in ext2 - metadata corruption Alexander Viro
2001-04-26 18:12 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-26 18:24   ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-26 19:00     ` Chris Mason
2001-04-26 18:49   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-04-26 19:08     ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-26 19:17       ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-26 20:06         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-26 19:15     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-26 19:34       ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-26 19:44         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-26 19:55           ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-26 20:08             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-04-26 20:21               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-26 20:49               ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-26 21:07                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-26 23:25                   ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-27  0:05                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-27  0:19                       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-04-27  0:35                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-26 21:13               ` Andrzej Krzysztofowicz
2001-04-27 18:02                 ` LA Walsh
2001-04-27 18:17                   ` dek_ml
2001-04-27  7:58               ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-04-27 13:23                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-27 14:32                   ` Ville Herva
2001-04-27 16:52                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-04-27 19:22                   ` Shane Wegner
2001-04-28  4:55                   ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-04-28 10:05                     ` Jens Axboe
2001-04-27 14:29               ` Andi Kleen
2001-05-03  6:23               ` volodya
2001-05-03  9:29                 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-03 17:21                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-04 11:40                     ` Rogier Wolff
2001-05-04 11:56                       ` Jens Axboe
2001-05-04 15:29                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-04 17:40                           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-05  3:18                           ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-05-06  0:37                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-06  2:14                               ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-05-06  2:50                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-06  3:00                                   ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-05-06  3:15                                     ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-06  3:32                                       ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-05-06  3:59                                         ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-06 12:47                                           ` Alan Cox
2001-05-06 19:46                                             ` Andreas Dilger
2001-05-06 20:58                                               ` Alan Cox
2001-05-07  4:08                                                 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-05-07 18:42                                           ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-11 14:54                                             ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-18 14:46                                               ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-11 20:00                                             ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-06  3:38                                     ` Andreas Dilger
2001-05-06  3:51                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-04 12:15                       ` Marc SCHAEFER
2001-05-04 17:28                       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-04 17:39                         ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-04 17:55                           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-04 18:29                             ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-04 19:13                               ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-05 11:20                               ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-05-05 17:11                                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-04 18:20                         ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-04 18:35                           ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-04 18:49                             ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-04 19:15                               ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-04 19:36                                 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-04 19:58                                   ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-04 20:04                                     ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-04 19:04                           ` Jens Axboe
2001-05-05 13:52                           ` Rogier Wolff
2001-05-05 18:12                             ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-08 13:46                           ` volodya
2001-05-09 10:30                             ` Helge Hafting
2001-05-04 21:11                         ` Alan Cox
2001-05-04 21:50                           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-04-26 20:11             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-26 20:14               ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2001-04-26 20:26               ` Linus Torvalds
2001-04-26 21:16                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-26 20:42         ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-04-26 20:55           ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-27 11:43             ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-04-26 19:39       ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0104270953280.2067-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
2001-04-27 17:36 ` Jeff Garzik
     [not found] ` <3AE9A69B.D11F0BBD@evision-ventures.com>
2001-04-28  8:31   ` Matthias Urlichs
2001-04-28 13:20   ` Olaf Titz
2001-04-30  8:47 ` Neil Conway

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