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From: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
To: Andrew McNamara <andrewm@connect.com.au>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	tytso@valinux.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Stephen Tweedie <sct@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Ext2, fsync() and MTA's?
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 18:47:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010521184758.B24682@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E14ya9b-0004Bc-00@the-village.bc.nu> <20010512145338.0D3D6285BF@wawura.off.connect.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <20010512145338.0D3D6285BF@wawura.off.connect.com.au>; from andrewm@connect.com.au on Sun, May 13, 2001 at 12:53:37AM +1000

Hi,

On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 12:53:37AM +1000, Andrew McNamara wrote:

> I seem to recall that in 2.2, fsync behaved like fdatasync, and that
> it's only in 2.4 that it also syncs metadata - is this correct?

No, fsync should be safe on 2.2.  There was a problem with O_SYNC not
syncing all metadata on 2.2 if you were extending a file, but that
never applied to fsync.

> Do the BSD's sync the directory data on an fsync of a file? I guess
> this is the bone of contention

No --- the old BSDs were safe because their directory operations were
fully synchronous so they *never* needed to be sync'ed manually.
According to SuS, an application relying on sync directory updates is
buggy, because SuS simply makes no such guarantees.

Just set chattr +S on the spool dir.  That's what the flag is for.
The biggest problem with that is that it propagates to subdirectories
and files --- would a version of the flag which applied only to
directories be a help here?

Cheers,
 Stephen

  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-05-21 17:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-05-12 11:50 Ext2, fsync() and MTA's? Andrew McNamara
2001-05-12 14:13 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-12 14:53   ` Andrew McNamara
2001-05-12 15:20     ` Theodore Tso
2001-05-21 17:47     ` Stephen C. Tweedie [this message]
2001-05-21 22:04       ` Theodore Tso
2001-05-22 15:50         ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-05-22 16:48           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-22 16:54             ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-05-22 16:57               ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-24  1:48       ` Marco d'Itri
2001-05-21 17:41   ` Stephen C. Tweedie

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