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From: "christophe barbé" <christophe.barbe@lineo.fr>
To: William Scott Lockwood III <scottlockwood@hotmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Test mail
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:09:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010731140927.A31267@pc8.lineo.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3B4B4FC10065D2C3@mta1n.bluewin.ch> <OE54msfGdMNFmWAFsTm00002ea9@hotmail.com> <20010731103413.E28761@pc8.lineo.fr> <OE34vSVMum03yMJiQTy000031e1@hotmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <OE34vSVMum03yMJiQTy000031e1@hotmail.com>; from thatlinuxguy@hotmail.com on mar, jui 31, 2001 at 13:42:20 +0200

Hi William Scott Lockwood III,

In your mails, you use outlook and hotmail together.
This is a mistake.

Outlook is a "not so bad idea" but which comes with a collection of
security holes. Eudora is definetly a better choice.

Hotmail is a http-based mail owned by microsoft. And all contents which go
in it become potential Microsoft content (there's a kind of implicit
copyright transfert between you end Microsoft).
You should read carrefully what you have (implicitly perhaps) signed.
You should avoid Hotmail. This is not related to M$ against Linux but to
your rights (to access and only you to your data)  against M$ profits. From
the Microsoft point of view, Hotmail License is an improvment over the way
they lock their clients by using proprietary (embraced-and-extanded)
protocols and standarts.  
Hotmail was the first site to use Microsoft Passport, which is the a draft
of .Net. If you accept Hotmail today you will accept the worst of .Net
tomorrow.

btw You said that Microsoft comes with good solutions.
This view (linux is not user friendly) is partly wrong because what is said
to be not user friendly is caused by people not accepting differences.
M$ users are scared by what we call the unix-way.

To conclude and I will stop following this thread, I'm against adding IQ
test in the lkml subscribe process.

Christophe

PS: I don't remember the name but there is a unix tool that provide
everything for MsExchange sharing facilities.

Le mar, 31 jui 2001 13:42:20, William Scott Lockwood III a écrit :
> Sick?  No.
> 
> As much as we dislike M$'s marketing practices, one has to admit that
> they DO come up with some GOOD solutions to problems, they just bundle
> them into BAD implementations that are non-free.
> 
> As I said earlier, the problem isn't hotmail - the problem is attitudes
> like yours.
> 
> Scott
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "christophe barbé" <christophe.barbe@lineo.fr>
> To: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 3:34 AM
> Subject: Re: Test mail
> 
> 
> 
> Le lun, 30 jui 2001 22:23:03, William Scott Lockwood III a écrit :
> > Basically, I use a hotmail and Outlook Express to help me SORT
> messages
> > on LKML.  It makes it MUCH easier for me to find the messages I want
> to
> > read vs the rest of the noise that I don't understand yet.
> 
> Sick ...
> 
> And btw you should read the various HotMail agreements you have signed.
> -
> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel"
> in
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> Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/
> 
> 
-- 
Christophe Barbé
Software Engineer - christophe.barbe@lineo.fr
Lineo France - Lineo High Availability Group
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  reply	other threads:[~2001-07-31 12:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 125+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-07-30 19:59 Test mail Per Jessen
2001-07-30 20:23 ` William Scott Lockwood III
2001-07-31  8:34   ` christophe barbé
2001-07-31 11:42     ` William Scott Lockwood III
2001-07-31 12:09       ` christophe barbé [this message]
2001-07-31 12:28         ` [OT] " William Scott Lockwood III
2001-07-31 21:02         ` OT: M$Exchange stuff for Linux/UNIX? [was: Re: Test mail] Paul G. Allen
2001-07-31 21:04           ` [OT] " J Sloan
2001-07-31 21:37             ` Alex Buell
2001-07-31 23:45             ` Horst von Brand
2001-07-31 21:07           ` Thomas Duffy
2001-07-31 21:54             ` James Simmons
2001-08-01  7:50           ` christophe barbé
2001-08-01 14:21           ` D. R. Holsbeck
2001-07-31 12:53     ` Test mail Alexander V. Bilichenko
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2025-09-22 14:29 Test Mail Shyam Kumar
2025-09-03  2:27 Shyam Kumar
2025-08-28  1:04 Shyam Kumar
2025-08-25 17:42 Shyam Kumar
2025-06-11 13:10 Shyam Kumar
2025-04-10 13:03 Shyam Kumar
2025-02-12  1:47 Shyam Kumar
2025-02-06  3:28 Shyam Kumar
2025-01-28  2:41 Test mail Shyam Kumar
2024-12-20 15:52 Test Mail Shyam Kumar
2024-12-13  3:05 Shyam Kumar
2024-09-26  0:36 Test mail Shyam Kumar
2024-07-16  3:26 Test Mail Shyam Kumar
2024-05-06 15:32 Shyam Kumar
2024-04-23  3:31 Shyam Kumar
2024-02-29 14:58 Shyam Kumar
2024-01-23  4:05 Shyam Kumar
2024-01-16  3:04 Shyam Kumar
2023-12-29 15:01 Shyam Kumar
2023-12-04  9:31 Shyam Kumar
2023-10-19 17:03 Shyam Kumar
2023-10-19 17:02 Shyam Kumar
2023-10-05 15:41 test mail Shyam Kumar
2023-07-28 20:56 Test Mail Kowshik Jois B S
2023-03-28 12:26 Shyam Kumar
2023-03-01 19:19 Shyam Kumar
2023-02-15 14:10 Shyam Kumar
2022-10-27 10:43 Shyam Kumar
2022-10-20 17:10 Shyam Kumar
2022-10-20 17:09 Shyam Kumar
2022-10-20 17:09 Shyam Kumar
2022-10-20 17:09 Shyam Kumar
2022-10-20 17:03 Shyam Kumar
2022-06-16 11:27 Shyam Kumar
2022-04-27 13:17 Test mail Shyam Kumar
2022-04-19 18:24 Test Mail Ross Burton
2021-05-19 12:15 Shyam Kumar
2019-03-04 19:44 Test mail Harshavardhan Unnibhavi
2019-01-03  1:47 test mail Junxiao Bi
2017-11-29  1:50 Test Mail Tim Guo(BJ-RD)
2017-11-29  1:35 Test mail Bruce Chang (VAS)
2016-11-03 16:49 Johannes Schindelin
2015-10-22  7:57 test mail Vineet Gupta
2015-10-22  8:32 ` Alexey Brodkin
2015-10-22  8:37 ` Alexey Brodkin
2015-03-10  8:37 Masahiro Yamada
2014-04-14  1:04 Pranith Kumar
2014-02-05  0:36 Test mail Rajat Jain
2013-02-12  9:20 Anand Kumar S - ERS, HCL Tech
2011-01-27 21:16 test mail Chikkature Rajashekar, Madhusudhan
2010-12-23 18:53 Chikkature Rajashekar, Madhusudhan
2010-11-26  2:51 Mei, Lei
2008-11-24 11:58 Pradeep G
2007-02-12  6:13 maser rati
2006-07-11 10:38 Chinmaya Mishra
2006-06-07 10:15 Adhiraj
2005-07-14 12:57 Test Mail Sunil Khandelwal
2005-07-14 13:03 ` David Woodhouse
2005-03-26 18:42 test mail sai narasimhamurthy
2004-03-24  6:17 Dinesh Kumar
2004-03-23 16:50 Test mail Sabharwal, Atul
2003-11-06  8:13 ashok
2003-06-04  0:43 fix TCP roundtrip time update code kuznet
2003-06-04  2:01 ` Nivedita Singhvi
2003-06-04  3:23   ` David S. Miller
2003-06-04  4:35     ` David Mosberger
2003-06-04  4:40       ` Nivedita Singhvi
2003-06-04  5:34         ` David Mosberger
2003-06-04  6:04           ` Nivedita Singhvi
2003-06-04  7:21             ` test mail panchi
2002-05-18 18:00 Ray Olszewski
2002-05-18 19:41 ` Mike Miller
2002-05-16 13:22 G Anna
2002-05-17 15:34 ` Petre Bandac
2002-05-17 20:58   ` Haines Brown
2002-05-18 17:41   ` Mike Miller
2001-07-30 20:22 Test mail Per Jessen
2001-07-30 21:19 ` Admin Mailing Lists
2001-07-30 19:32 Torrey Hoffman
2001-07-30 18:32 Torrey Hoffman
2001-07-30 19:19 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-07-30 18:33   ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-07-30 22:15     ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2001-07-31  8:27     ` christophe barbé
2001-07-31 11:44       ` William Scott Lockwood III
2001-07-29 22:20 Mailing Server
2001-07-30  1:53 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2001-07-30  4:02   ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-30  6:09     ` Paul G. Allen
2001-07-30  6:28       ` Paul G. Allen
2001-07-30  7:10         ` Lew Wolfgang
2001-07-30  8:41           ` Paul G. Allen
2001-07-31 23:08           ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-07-30  9:45         ` Chris Crowther
2001-07-30  6:29       ` Alexander V. Bilichenko
2001-07-30 11:07         ` Paul Mundt
2001-07-30 11:45           ` john slee
2001-07-30 11:46             ` Alan Cox
2001-07-30 12:07               ` Paul Mundt
2001-07-30 12:15                 ` Alan Cox
2001-07-30 12:23                   ` Paul Mundt
2001-07-30 12:51                     ` Alan Cox
2001-07-30  7:28     ` Riley Williams
2001-07-30 16:17       ` christophe barbé
2001-07-30 16:32         ` Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
2001-07-30 17:22           ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-07-30 17:38             ` Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
2001-07-30 18:20               ` Justin Guyett
2001-07-30 21:14                 ` Horst von Brand
2001-07-31  7:27                   ` Ragnar Hojland Espinosa
     [not found]               ` <9k48ju$94b$1@ns1.clouddancer.com>
2001-07-30 19:21                 ` Colonel
2001-07-30 17:56             ` Jim Potter
2001-07-30 18:00             ` Mike Galbraith
2001-08-01  0:18           ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-08-01 11:56             ` szonyi calin
2001-07-30 17:25         ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-07-31 12:27         ` Matti Aarnio

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