From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 00:15:44 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 00:15:35 -0400 Received: from [204.214.10.168] ([204.214.10.168]:49423 "HELO xi.linuxpower.cx") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 00:15:21 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 23:14:48 -0400 From: Gregory Maxwell To: "Patrick J. LoPresti" Cc: Matthias Andree , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: ext3-2.4-0.9.4 Message-ID: <20010803231448.B15494@xi.linuxpower.cx> In-Reply-To: <01080317471707.01827@starship> <20010803121638.A28194@cs.cmu.edu> <0108031854120A.01827@starship> <200107301711.f6UHBWHE001945@acap-dev.nas.cmu.edu> <20010803132457.A30127@cs.cmu.edu> <20010804051320.B16516@emma1.emma.line.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.8i In-Reply-To: ; from patl@cag.lcs.mit.edu on Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 11:50:23PM -0400 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 11:50:23PM -0400, Patrick J. LoPresti wrote: > > http://cr.yp.to/qmail/faq/reliability.html > > ...which is consistent. Qmail is assuming that the link() is > synchronous, as it was back in the "Good Old Days" of stock FFS. That isn't the only cruft there from the "Good Old Days": "Battery backups will keep your server alive, letting you park the disk to avoid a head crash, when the power goes out." What the hell? Self-parking drives predate qmail by quite a long time.