From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 22:52:59 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 22:52:40 -0400 Received: from alcove.wittsend.com ([130.205.0.20]:34221 "EHLO alcove.wittsend.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 22:52:19 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 22:51:51 -0400 From: "Michael H. Warfield" To: "Dr. Kelsey Hudson" Cc: s0mbre , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Encrypted Swap (random off-topic snippet) Message-ID: <20010807225151.A12335@alcove.wittsend.com> Mail-Followup-To: "Dr. Kelsey Hudson" , s0mbre , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <12735.010807@2ka.mipt.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.2i In-Reply-To: ; from kernel@blackhole.compendium-tech.com on Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 07:24:50PM -0700 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 07:24:50PM -0700, Dr. Kelsey Hudson wrote: > I really shouldn't pollute the list like this. Perfect. :-) It's what we, sometimes, refer to as "rubber hose security" and what Bruce Schneier has been heard to refer to as "rubber hose cryptography". You grap someone and beat the #$@#$# out of them with a rubber hose till they tell you what they want to know. The BEST we can hope for is to raise the secuity to the point where they (whoever "THEY" are) can do no better than that. :-/ If we HAVEN'T raised it that far, we still have more we can, and should, do. > Kelsey Hudson khudson@ctica.com > Software Engineer > Compendium Technologies, Inc (619) 725-0771 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike -- Michael H. Warfield | (770) 985-6132 | mhw@WittsEnd.com (The Mad Wizard) | (678) 463-0932 | http://www.wittsend.com/mhw/ NIC whois: MHW9 | An optimist believes we live in the best of all PGP Key: 0xDF1DD471 | possible worlds. A pessimist is sure of it!