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From: Simon Kirby <sim@netnation.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: linux-2.4.10-pre5
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 17:39:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010909173947.A20202@netnation.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0109090909001.21049-100000@duckman.distro.conectiva> <Pine.LNX.4.33.0109091105380.14479-100000@penguin.transmeta.com> <9ngirh$jsu$1@cesium.transmeta.com>
In-Reply-To: <9ngirh$jsu$1@cesium.transmeta.com>

On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 01:18:57PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:

> The main reason people seems to still justify use dump/restore is --
> believe it or not -- the inability to set atime.  One would think this
> would be a trivial extension to the VFS, even if protected by a
> capability (CAP_BACKUP?).

What do people actually use atime for, anyway?  I've always
noatime/nodiratime'd most servers I've set up because it saves so much
disk I/O, and I have yet to see anything really use it.  I can see that
in some cases it would be useful to turn it _on_ (perhaps for debugging /
removal of unused files, etc.), but it seems silly that the default case
is a situation which on the surface seems dumb (opening a file for read
causes a disk write).

Simon-

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  reply	other threads:[~2001-09-10  0:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-09-08  4:18 linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-08  6:32 ` linux-2.4.10-pre5: drivers/net/wan compile fixes Eyal Lebedinsky
2001-09-08  6:36 ` 2.4.9-ac10 (not 2.4.10-pre5!) wan fixes Eyal Lebedinsky
2001-09-08  8:32 ` 2.4.10-pre5 compile error George Bonser
2001-09-08 17:19 ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-08 17:30   ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-08 17:57     ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-08 18:01       ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-09  1:09         ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-09  1:20           ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-09  1:38             ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-09  1:53               ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-09  2:22                 ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-09  2:31                   ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-09  3:30                     ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-09  3:58                       ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-09  4:16                         ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-09  4:28                           ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-09 12:09                             ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Rik van Riel
2001-09-09 14:53                               ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-09 18:17                               ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-09 20:18                                 ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 H. Peter Anvin
2001-09-10  0:39                                   ` Simon Kirby [this message]
2001-09-10  8:30                                     ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Kai Henningsen
2001-09-11  5:29                                       ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Peter Samuelson
2001-09-11 11:29                                         ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Kai Henningsen
2001-09-10 21:22                                   ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-09-09 14:47                             ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-09 16:24                               ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-09 17:29                                 ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-09 23:56                             ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-09  4:29                         ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Andreas Dilger
2001-09-09  4:54                           ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-09  6:17                             ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Andreas Dilger
2001-09-09 17:31                               ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-09 19:19                                 ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-09 23:24                                   ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-09 23:54                                     ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Alan Cox
2001-09-10  0:04                                       ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-10  0:23                                       ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-10  0:23                                     ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-10  0:38                                       ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-10  1:04                                         ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-10  1:45                                           ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Chris Mason
2001-09-10  1:55                                             ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-10  2:02                                               ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Chris Mason
2001-09-10  2:06                                                 ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-10  2:15                                               ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-10  2:22                                                 ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-10  2:20                                                   ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Chris Mason
2001-09-10  2:40                                                     ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-10  3:02                                                       ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Chris Mason
2001-09-10  3:36                                                         ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-10 19:06                                                           ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Chris Mason
2001-09-10  2:03                                             ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-10  2:41                                               ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Chris Mason
2001-09-10 21:18                                     ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-10 21:23                                       ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-09-10 21:54                                         ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-10 22:39                                           ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-09-10 23:13                                             ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-10 23:25                                               ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-09-10 22:15                                       ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-10 22:26                                         ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-10 22:39                                         ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Rik van Riel
2001-09-10 23:14                                           ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-10 23:16                                             ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-11  0:53                                               ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Rik van Riel
2001-09-11  6:39                                                 ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Hua Zhong
2001-09-11 15:12                                                 ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-11 15:44                                                   ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-11 15:48                                                     ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-11 16:05                                                       ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-09-11 16:07                                                       ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-11 16:07                                                         ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-09-11 16:13                                                           ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Martin Dalecki
2001-09-11 17:17                                                       ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-11 10:02                                           ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-11 20:07                                             ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Rik van Riel
2001-09-10 23:20                                         ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-11  0:20                                           ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-11  1:16                                             ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-11  2:27                                               ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-11  7:45                                                 ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Helge Hafting
2001-09-11 10:27                                                 ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-11 15:39                                                   ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-11 16:52                                                     ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-09 19:51                               ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Daniel Phillips
2001-09-09  9:05                           ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Christoph Hellwig
2001-09-09 13:14                           ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Anton Altaparmakov
2001-09-09 14:31                             ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-08 21:15     ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Andreas Dilger
2001-09-09  0:59       ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-08 22:01 ` linux-2.4.10-pre5 Thiago Vinhas de Moraes

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