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From: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
To: lm@bitmover.com
Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, torvalds@transmeta.com,
	riel@conectiva.com.br, bcrl@redhat.com, davidel@xmailserver.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Scheduler ( was: Just a second ) ...
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 13:30:13 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011218.133013.133912859.davem@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20011218131713.O26374@work.bitmover.com>
In-Reply-To: <20011218130228.N26374@work.bitmover.com> <20011218.131420.67881975.davem@redhat.com> <20011218131713.O26374@work.bitmover.com>

   From: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>
   Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 13:17:13 -0800
   
   Let me introduce you to this neat invention called a telephone.  It's
   the black thing next to your desk, it rings, has buttons.  If you push
   the right buttons, well, it's magic...

I'm not calling Holland every time I want to poke Jens about
something in a patch we're working on :-)

I hate telephones for technical stuff, because people can call the
fucking thing when I am not behind my computer or even worse when I AM
behind my computer and I want to concentrate on the code on my screen
without being disturbed.  With IRC it is MY CHOICE to get involved in
the discussion, I can choose to respond or not respond to someone, I
can choose to be available or not available at any given time.  It's
just a real-time version of email.  And the "passive, I can ignore
you" part is what I like about it.

Telephones frankly suck for discussing technical topics.  I can't cut
and paste pieces of code from my other editor buffer to show you over
the phone, as another example as to why.

A lot of people like to use telephones specifically because it does
not give the other party the option of ignoring you once they pick up
the phone.  I value the ability to make the choice to ignore people
because a lot of ideas I don't give a crap about come under my nose.

In fact that may be one of the best parts about Linux development
compared to doing stuff at a company, one isn't required to listen to
someone's idea or to even read it.  If today I don't give a crap about
Joe's filesystem idea, hey guess what I'm not going to read any of his
emails about the thing.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-12-18 21:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 168+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20011218020456.A11541@redhat.com>
2001-12-18 16:50 ` Scheduler ( was: Just a second ) Linus Torvalds
2001-12-18 16:56   ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-18 17:18     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-18 19:04       ` Alan Cox
2001-12-18 21:02         ` Larry McVoy
2001-12-18 21:14           ` David S. Miller
2001-12-18 21:17             ` Larry McVoy
2001-12-18 21:19               ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-18 21:30               ` David S. Miller [this message]
2001-12-18 21:18           ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-19 17:44           ` IRC (was: Scheduler) Daniel Phillips
2001-12-19 17:51             ` Larry McVoy
2001-12-19 18:24               ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-19 18:19             ` M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
2001-12-19 18:27               ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-19 18:40               ` J Sloan
2001-12-19 16:50         ` Scheduler ( was: Just a second ) Daniel Phillips
     [not found]           ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0112190859050.1872-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
2001-12-19 18:57             ` aio Ben LaHaise
2001-12-19 19:29               ` aio Dan Kegel
2001-12-20  4:04                 ` aio Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-19 20:09               ` aio Daniel Phillips
2001-12-19 20:21               ` aio Davide Libenzi
     [not found]               ` <mailman.1008792601.3391.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2001-12-19 20:23                 ` aio Pete Zaitcev
2001-12-20  0:13               ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-20  0:21                 ` aio Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-20  0:36                   ` aio Andrew Morton
2001-12-20  0:55                     ` aio H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-20  0:47                   ` aio Davide Libenzi
2001-12-20  1:16                 ` aio Bill Huey
2001-12-20  1:20                   ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-20  2:26                     ` aio Bill Huey
2001-12-20  2:45                       ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-19 18:57                         ` aio John Heil
2001-12-20  3:06                           ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-19 19:30                             ` aio John Heil
2001-12-20  5:29                               ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-20  3:21                             ` aio Bill Huey
2001-12-27  9:36                               ` aio Martin Dalecki
2001-12-20  3:07                         ` aio Bill Huey
2001-12-20  3:13                           ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-20  3:47                             ` aio Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-20  5:39                               ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-20  5:58                                 ` aio Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-20  6:00                                   ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-20  6:46                                     ` aio Mike Castle
2001-12-20  6:55                                       ` aio Robert Love
2001-12-20  7:13                                         ` aio Mike Castle
2001-12-20  7:01                                       ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-20  7:27                                 ` aio Daniel Phillips
     [not found]                                 ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0112201127400.2656-100000@localhost.localdomain>
2001-12-20 11:49                                   ` aio William Lee Irwin III
2001-12-20 16:32                                   ` aio Dan Kegel
2001-12-20 18:05                                     ` aio Davide Libenzi
2001-12-20 21:45                                   ` aio Lincoln Dale
2001-12-20 21:59                                     ` aio Linus Torvalds
2001-12-24 11:44                                       ` aio Gerold Jury
2001-12-20 23:02                                     ` aio Lincoln Dale
2001-12-21 17:24                               ` aio Alan Cox
2001-12-21 17:16                                 ` aio Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-23  5:35                                   ` aio Bill Huey
2001-12-20 14:38                             ` aio Luigi Genoni
2001-12-20 17:26                             ` aio Henning Schmiedehausen
2001-12-20 20:04                               ` aio M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
2001-12-20 23:53                               ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-21  0:28                                 ` Offtopic Java/C# [Re: aio] Bill Huey
     [not found]                         ` <mailman.1008817860.10606.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2001-12-20  5:16                           ` aio Pete Zaitcev
2001-12-20 16:16                         ` aio Dan Kegel
2001-12-21 11:44                           ` aio Gerold Jury
2001-12-21 13:48                             ` aio Ingo Molnar
2001-12-21 15:27                               ` aio Gerold Jury
2001-12-24 11:08                                 ` aio Gerold Jury
2001-12-20 17:24                         ` aio Henning Schmiedehausen
2001-12-20  2:37                     ` aio Cameron Simpson
2001-12-20  2:47                       ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-20  2:52                         ` aio Cameron Simpson
2001-12-20  2:58                           ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-20  5:47                             ` aio Linus Torvalds
2001-12-20  5:57                               ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-20  5:59                                 ` aio Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-20  6:02                                   ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-20  6:07                                     ` aio Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-20  6:12                                       ` aio David S. Miller
2001-12-20  6:23                                         ` aio Linus Torvalds
2001-12-20 10:18                                           ` aio Ingo Molnar
2001-12-20 18:20                                             ` aio Robert Love
2001-12-20 22:30                                               ` aio Cameron Simpson
2001-12-20 22:46                                                 ` aio Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-20  6:09                                     ` aio Linus Torvalds
2001-12-20 17:28                                       ` aio Suparna Bhattacharya
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.1008816001.10138.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2001-12-20  5:07                       ` aio Pete Zaitcev
2001-12-20  5:10                         ` aio Cameron Simpson
2001-12-21 17:28                     ` aio Alan Cox
2001-12-23  5:46                       ` aio Bill Huey
2001-12-23  6:34                         ` aio Dan Kegel
2001-12-23 18:43                           ` aio Davide Libenzi
2001-12-26 20:42                         ` Java and Flam^H^H^H^H AIO (was: aio) Daniel Phillips
2001-12-18 19:11       ` Scheduler ( was: Just a second ) Mike Galbraith
2001-12-18 19:15       ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-18 22:32         ` in defense of the linux-kernel mailing list Ingo Molnar
2001-12-18 17:55   ` Scheduler ( was: Just a second ) Davide Libenzi
2001-12-18 19:43   ` Alexander Viro
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0112181508001.3410-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
2001-12-20  3:50 ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-20  4:04   ` Ryan Cumming
2001-12-20  5:39   ` David S. Miller
2001-12-20  5:58     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-20  6:01       ` David S. Miller
2001-12-20 22:40         ` Troels Walsted Hansen
2001-12-20 23:55           ` Chris Ricker
2001-12-20 23:59             ` CaT
2001-12-21  0:06             ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-20 11:29     ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-20 11:34       ` David S. Miller
2001-12-20  5:52   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-18  5:59 V Ganesh
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-12-18  5:11 Thierry Forveille
2001-12-17 21:41 ` John Heil
2001-12-18 14:31 ` Alan Cox
     [not found] <20011217200946.D753@holomorphy.com>
2001-12-18  4:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-18  4:55   ` William Lee Irwin III
2001-12-18  6:09     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-18  6:34       ` Jeff Garzik
2001-12-18 12:23       ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-18 14:29       ` Alan Cox
2001-12-18 17:07         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-18 15:51       ` Martin Josefsson
2001-12-18 17:08         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-18 16:16       ` Roger Larsson
2001-12-18 17:16         ` Herman Oosthuysen
2001-12-18 17:16         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-18 17:21       ` David Mansfield
2001-12-18 17:27         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-18 17:54           ` Andreas Dilger
2001-12-18 18:27             ` Doug Ledford
2001-12-18 18:52               ` Andreas Dilger
2001-12-18 19:03                 ` Doug Ledford
2001-12-19  9:19               ` Peter Wächtler
2001-12-19 11:05               ` Helge Hafting
2001-12-21 20:23               ` Rob Landley
2001-12-18 18:35             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-18 18:58           ` Alan Cox
2001-12-18 19:31             ` Gerd Knorr
2001-12-18 18:25       ` William Lee Irwin III
2001-12-18 14:21     ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-12-18 18:13   ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-16  0:13 Just a second Linus Torvalds
2001-12-17 22:48 ` Scheduler ( was: Just a second ) Davide Libenzi
2001-12-17 22:53   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-17 23:15     ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-17 23:18       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-17 23:39         ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-17 23:52         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-18  1:11           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-18  1:46             ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-18  5:54             ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-18  6:10               ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-18  1:54     ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-18  2:35       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-18  2:51         ` David Lang
2001-12-18  3:08         ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-18  3:19           ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-18 14:09         ` Alan Cox
2001-12-18  9:12           ` John Heil
2001-12-18 15:34           ` degger
2001-12-18 18:35             ` Mike Kravetz
2001-12-18 18:48             ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-18 16:50           ` Mike Kravetz
2001-12-18 17:22             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-18 17:50               ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-18 17:00           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-18 19:17             ` Alan Cox

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