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From: "M. R. Brown" <mrbrown@0xd6.org>
To: "Grover, Andrew" <andrew.grover@intel.com>
Cc: "'Alexander Viro'" <viro@math.psu.edu>,
	"'linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org'" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"'otto.wyss@bluewin.ch'" <otto.wyss@bluewin.ch>
Subject: Re: Booting a modular kernel through a multiple streams file
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 14:30:19 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011218203019.GC9314@0xd6.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <59885C5E3098D511AD690002A5072D3C42D804@orsmsx111.jf.intel.com>
In-Reply-To: <59885C5E3098D511AD690002A5072D3C42D804@orsmsx111.jf.intel.com>

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* Grover, Andrew <andrew.grover@intel.com> on Tue, Dec 18, 2001:

> > From: Alexander Viro [mailto:viro@math.psu.edu]
> > On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Grover, Andrew wrote:
> > > GRUB 0.90 does this today.
> > ... and I'm quite sure that EMACS could do it easily.  Let's not talk
> > about GNU bloatware, OK?
> 
> I don't think this is bloatware, especially considering there really isn't
> any cost for having a full-featured bootloader - all its footprint gets
> reclaimed, after all. I respect lilo and its cousins, but they make things
> harder than they have to be. Why maintain a reduced level of functionality
> (software emaciation?) when better alternatives are available?
> 

Available for what?  SuperH?  MIPS?  IA-64?  Your precious GRUB and
Multiboot "standard" are only ever useful on the x86 architecture, so you
would propose a x86-specific global change that doesn't benefit the rest of
the other kernel archs?  Bloat for the sake of?

> 
> > IOW, we are backwards compatible with old
> > loaders.
> 
> No progress will ever be made if we cater to the lowest common denominator.
> 

The i386.

M. R.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-12-18 20:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-12-18 19:50 Booting a modular kernel through a multiple streams file Grover, Andrew
2001-12-18 20:26 ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-18 20:30 ` M. R. Brown [this message]
2001-12-18 20:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-19  9:34 ` James A Sutherland
2001-12-23  1:02   ` Dave Cinege
2001-12-23  9:10     ` James A Sutherland
2001-12-19 14:13 ` Erik Mouw
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-12-23  7:20 Grover, Andrew
2001-12-23  9:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-12-23  9:47   ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-23 21:24     ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found] <Pine.GSO.4.21.0112190313080.9963-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>
2001-12-19  8:47 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-12-19 14:55   ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-19 15:49     ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-12-19 17:03       ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-19 19:01         ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-12-20  3:30         ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-18 20:35 Torrey Hoffman
2001-12-18 17:47 Grover, Andrew
2001-12-18 18:53 ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-18 19:43 ` David Weinehall
2001-12-18 17:43 Grover, Andrew
2001-12-18 18:45 ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-18 18:49 ` Greg KH
     [not found] <Pine.GSO.4.21.0112180350550.6100-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>
2001-12-18 11:16 ` James A Sutherland
2001-12-18 19:10   ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-19  9:27     ` James A Sutherland
2001-12-19 10:11       ` Erik Andersen
2001-12-23  0:39     ` Dave Cinege
2001-12-23  0:42       ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-23  1:15         ` Dave Cinege
2001-12-23  1:35           ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-23  2:08             ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-17 22:10 Grover, Andrew
2001-12-18  2:31 ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-18  5:46   ` Craig Christophel
2001-12-23  0:28   ` Dave Cinege
2001-12-23  0:44   ` Dave Cinege
2001-12-23  1:39   ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-23  2:10     ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-23  3:00       ` Dave Cinege
2001-12-23  3:52         ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-23  4:41         ` Ryan Cumming
2001-12-23  5:52           ` Dave Cinege
2001-12-23  7:16             ` Bernd Eckenfels
2001-12-23  8:06               ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-23 12:22                 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-23 20:58                   ` Erik Mouw
2001-12-17 19:53 Grover, Andrew
2001-12-17 20:26 ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-16 20:37 Otto Wyss
2001-12-16 20:50 ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-17 18:49   ` Otto Wyss
2001-12-17 19:07     ` Andreas Dilger
2001-12-20 18:47       ` Otto Wyss
2001-12-16 21:06 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-16 22:02   ` antirez
2001-12-16 22:18     ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-23  0:08 ` Dave Cinege
2001-12-23  6:26   ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-12-23 13:48   ` Alan Cox
2001-12-23 17:57     ` Dave Cinege
2001-12-23 23:05     ` Marcus Meissner
2001-12-24  2:38       ` Alan Cox
2001-12-27 10:58       ` Wilfried Weissmann

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