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From: Grant Grundler <grundler@dsl2.external.hp.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@debian.org>
Cc: parisc-linux@parisc-linux.org
Subject: Re: [parisc-linux] atomic_t
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 21:09:09 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020114040909.87321482A@dsl2.external.hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Message from Matthew Wilcox <willy@debian.org> of "Sun, 13 Jan 2002 21:15:08 GMT." <20020113211508.V9193@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk>

Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> Just thinking about atomic_set taking the spinlock to assure
> exclusivity...  I thought we could eliminate it.

You are only looking at interactions between atomic_set
and atomic_add_return. Aren't there potentialially other
types of interactions with other atomic operations?
But I don't know. Alan Cox?

...
> Before step b leads to case 2.  after step d leads to case 1.  between
> steps b and d, it's as if the atomic_set _never_happened_.  It results
> in v=4, a_a_r returns 4.

I agree with the analysis.

But someone thought it was time to reset the counter. And if
it "never happened", then whoever is looking for 'v == 1' will
never see it.

> The question is whether any code relies on this behaviour.  It probably
> does in some of the messier bits of networking :-(

Even if that code doesn't exist today, it might exist in the future.
I don't want to bet on corner cases with the semantics.
Those types of bugs are hard to reproduce and hard to debug.


thanks,
grant

  reply	other threads:[~2002-01-14  4:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-01-13 21:15 [parisc-linux] atomic_t Matthew Wilcox
2002-01-14  4:09 ` Grant Grundler [this message]
2002-01-14  4:43   ` Matthew Wilcox
2002-01-14  7:12     ` Grant Grundler
2002-01-14  9:54   ` Alan Cox
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-01-14  6:54 John Marvin

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