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From: "christophe barbé" <christophe.barbe.ml@online.fr>
To: Kai Henningsen <kaih@khms.westfalen.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: rm-ing files with open file descriptors
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 22:43:33 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020120034333.GA13588@online.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020119041857.GA10795@storm.local> <87lmevjrep.fsf@localhost.localdomain> <20020119041857.GA10795@storm.local> <20020119145132.GA972@online.fr> <8HBE2ej1w-B@khms.westfalen.de>
In-Reply-To: <8HBE2ej1w-B@khms.westfalen.de>

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On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 08:01:00PM +0200, Kai Henningsen wrote:
> christophe.barbe.ml@online.fr (christophe barb?)  wrote on 19.01.02 in <20020119145132.GA972@online.fr>:
> 
> > On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 05:18:57AM +0100, Andreas Bombe wrote:
> > > Whether that was an intended or accidental feature only someone with
> > > more insight into Unix history can answer.  It's that feature that lets
> > > us do live upgrades of distributions without rebooting (executables and
> > > libraries can be replaced without affecting the currently running
> > > processes), at the very least much easier than it would be without this
> > > behaviour.
> >
> > I remember that previous debian release come with a patched kernel to
> > allow live upgrade. It was explained in the FAQ that the patch was
> > required for this purpose.
> 
> Complete and utter bullshit. This was never true, and the FAQ never  
> claimed this.
> 
> >    7.2 Debian claims to be able to update a running program;
> >       how is this accomplished?
> 
> ... under which was originally explained how running demons would be  
> restarted, and later it was also mentioned that replacing in-use files is  
> possible under Unix. Nothing more. (Google groups will happily find those  
> versions, they were in use from 1996 to 2001 according to the archive.)
> 
> > What was in this patch?
> 
> The patch only exists in your fantasy.

Ok you are right. I've checked old versions of this FAQ and this patch
only exists in my fantasy.

I take your 'Complete and utter bullshit' comment as a debian compliment
and not as an insult.

Christophe

> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2002-01-20  3:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-01-18 21:11 rm-ing files with open file descriptors Doug Alcorn
2002-01-18 21:27 ` Xavier Bestel
2002-01-18 21:28 ` Ken Brownfield
2002-01-19 20:23   ` Rob Landley
2002-01-18 21:49 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-01-19  0:50   ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2002-01-19  2:29     ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-19 10:57       ` Xavier Bestel
2002-01-19 11:10       ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2002-01-19 11:28         ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-19 12:01           ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2002-01-23 12:18             ` Pavel Machek
2002-01-24  9:46               ` Herbert Xu
2002-01-19 17:44           ` Kai Henningsen
2002-01-20 15:30             ` Richard Kettlewell
2002-01-20 18:21               ` Doug McNaught
2002-01-20 23:10               ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2002-01-20  3:55           ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-01-19 15:21         ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-19 15:32           ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-19 20:26             ` Rob Landley
2002-01-19 17:53           ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2002-01-20 15:48             ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-19 20:24           ` Rob Landley
2002-01-19 11:15       ` Ville Herva
2002-01-19 12:16       ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2002-01-19 12:22         ` Xavier Bestel
2002-01-19 12:29           ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-19 12:46             ` Xavier Bestel
2002-01-19 13:18               ` Rogier Wolff
2002-01-19 15:24             ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-19 14:50     ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-20 14:23     ` Remi Turk
2002-01-20 20:02       ` Ville Herva
2002-01-20 20:44         ` Andreas Ferber
2002-01-20 21:08           ` Ville Herva
2002-01-21  9:06             ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-21  9:21               ` Ville Herva
2002-01-18 21:59 ` J Sloan
2002-01-19  4:18 ` Andreas Bombe
2002-01-19 14:51   ` christophe barbé
2002-01-19 18:01     ` Kai Henningsen
2002-01-20  3:43       ` christophe barbé [this message]
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2002-01-18 22:11 Hank Leininger

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