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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>
To: Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>
Cc: Chris Mason <mason@suse.com>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>,
	"Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] 2.4.x write barriers (updated for ext3)
Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 09:03:31 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200203041503.g24F3WU01722@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Message from Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>  of "Mon, 04 Mar 2002 06:05:29 +0100." <E16hkfB-0000Zp-00@starship.berlin>

phillips@bonn-fries.net said:
> But chances are, almost all the IOs ahead of the journal commit belong
> to your same filesystem anyway, so you may be worrying too much about
> possibly waiting for something on another partition. 

My impression is that most modern JFS can work on multiple transactions 
simultaneously.  All you really care about, I believe, is I/O ordering within 
the transaction.  However, separate transactions have no I/O ordering 
requirements with respect to each other (unless they actually overlap).  Using 
ordered tags imposes a global ordering, not just a local transaction ordering, 
so they may not be the most appropriate way to ensure the ordering of writes 
within a single transaction.

I'm not really a JFS expert, so perhaps those who actually develop these 
filesystems could comment?

James



  reply	other threads:[~2002-03-04 15:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-02-22 15:57 [PATCH] 2.4.x write barriers (updated for ext3) James Bottomley
2002-02-22 16:10 ` Chris Mason
2002-02-22 16:13 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-02-22 17:36   ` James Bottomley
2002-02-22 18:14     ` Chris Mason
2002-02-28 15:36       ` James Bottomley
2002-02-28 15:55         ` Chris Mason
2002-02-28 17:58           ` Mike Anderson
2002-02-28 18:12           ` Chris Mason
2002-03-01  2:08             ` James Bottomley
2002-03-03 22:11         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-04  3:34           ` Chris Mason
2002-03-04  5:05             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-04 15:03               ` James Bottomley [this message]
2002-03-04 17:04                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-03-04 17:16                   ` Chris Mason
2002-03-04 18:05                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-03-04 18:28                       ` James Bottomley
2002-03-04 19:55                         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-03-04 19:48                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-04 19:57                         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-03-04 21:06                           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-05 14:58                             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-03-05  7:48                         ` Jens Axboe
2002-03-04 19:51                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-05  7:42                       ` Jens Axboe
2002-03-04 17:35                   ` James Bottomley
2002-03-04 17:48                     ` Chris Mason
2002-03-04 18:11                       ` James Bottomley
2002-03-04 18:41                         ` Chris Mason
2002-03-04 21:34                         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-03-04 18:09                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-03-04  8:19             ` Helge Hafting
2002-03-04 14:57             ` James Bottomley
2002-03-04 17:24               ` Chris Mason
2002-03-04 19:02                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-05  7:22               ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-03-05 23:01                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-04  4:21           ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-03-04  5:31             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-04  6:09               ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-03-04  7:57                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-05  7:09                   ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-03-05 22:56                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-04 16:52                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-03-04 18:15                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-05  7:40                     ` Jens Axboe
2002-03-05 22:29                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-12  7:01                         ` Jens Axboe
2002-03-10  5:24                   ` Douglas Gilbert
2002-03-11 11:13                     ` Kurt Garloff
2002-03-12  1:17                       ` GOTO Masanori
2002-03-12  6:58                       ` Jens Axboe
2002-03-13 22:37                         ` Peter Osterlund
2002-03-11 11:34                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-03-11 17:15                       ` James Bottomley
2002-03-04 14:48           ` James Bottomley
2002-03-06 13:59             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-06 14:34               ` James Bottomley
2002-02-25 10:57 ` Helge Hafting
2002-02-25 15:04   ` James Bottomley
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-03-01 15:26 Dieter Nützel
2002-03-01 16:00 ` James Bottomley
2002-02-21 23:30 Chris Mason
2002-02-22 14:19 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-02-22 15:26   ` Chris Mason
2002-01-10  9:55 [ANNOUNCE] FUSE: Filesystem in Userspace 0.95 Miklos Szeredi
2002-01-13  3:10 ` Pavel Machek
2002-01-21 10:18   ` Miklos Szeredi
2002-01-23 10:47     ` Pavel Machek
2002-01-22 19:07 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-23  2:33   ` [Avfs] " Justin Mason
2002-01-23  5:26     ` Daniel Phillips

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