From: yodaiken@fsmlabs.com
To: Richard Gooch <rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca>
Cc: yodaiken@fsmlabs.com, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@transmeta.com
Subject: Re: [Lse-tech] Re: 10.31 second kernel compile
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 16:34:58 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020316163458.A25041@hq.fsmlabs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020316113536.A19495@hq.fsmlabs.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel> <Pine.LNX.4.33.0203161037160.31913-100000@penguin.transmeta.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel> <20020316115726.B19495@hq.fsmlabs.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel> <p73g0301f79.fsf@oldwotan.suse.de> <20020316125711.B20436@hq.fsmlabs.com> <20020316210504.A24097@wotan.suse.de> <20020316131219.C20436@hq.fsmlabs.com> <200203162027.g2GKRqf13432@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca> <20020316134732.C21439@hq.fsmlabs.com> <200203162105.g2GL5H914363@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca>
In-Reply-To: <200203162105.g2GL5H914363@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca>; from rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca on Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 02:05:17PM -0700
On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 02:05:17PM -0700, Richard Gooch wrote:
> > Why not? If you just ran vim on console you'd be more productive and
> > not need all those worthless processes.
>
> Yeah, right.
I was just trying to be nice.
> > At 4KB/page and 8bytes/pte a
> > 1G process will need at least 2MB of pte alone ! Add in the 4 layers,
> > the software VM struct, ...
>
> This isn't a dedicated bigass-image display box. It's a workstation.
> It's where I read email, hack kernels, write visualisation tools and
> stuff like that.
>
> And I can afford a few MiB of RAM for PTE's and such for *the one
> process which is mapping my huge data files*! That's effectively a
> small, one-time cost. Every other process doesn't have a significant
> PTE cost.
Well, it's a matter of target. I'm thinking about our customers who
do high grade image processing on a stream of gig+ bitmaps. They need
64 (some are already painfully stranded on Alphas) and they don't use these
boxes for email.
> > But sure, big pages are not always good.
>
> Hm. With wide TLB's, what are the benefits to big pages? One
tlb miss rates, mm structure overhead and setup/teardown, swap speed,
---------------------------------------------------------
Victor Yodaiken
Finite State Machine Labs: The RTLinux Company.
www.fsmlabs.com www.rtlinux.com
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2002-03-16 19:32 ` [Lse-tech] Re: 10.31 second kernel compile Andi Kleen
2002-03-16 19:57 ` yodaiken
2002-03-16 20:05 ` Andi Kleen
2002-03-16 20:12 ` yodaiken
2002-03-16 20:27 ` Richard Gooch
2002-03-16 20:47 ` yodaiken
2002-03-16 21:05 ` Richard Gooch
2002-03-16 23:34 ` yodaiken [this message]
2002-03-17 13:48 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-16 20:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-16 21:39 ` yodaiken
2002-03-16 21:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-17 14:38 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-03-17 18:20 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-17 20:55 ` 2.4.19-pre3-ac1 - Quotactl patch Shawn Starr
2002-03-17 22:22 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-18 1:49 ` Shawn Starr
2002-03-18 1:30 ` OT: "real" letters [Was: 10.31 second kernel compile] Itai Nahshon
2002-03-21 0:38 ` Derek Fawcus
2002-03-21 4:25 ` Tim Coleman
2002-03-16 22:00 ` [Lse-tech] Re: 10.31 second kernel compile Alan Cox
2002-03-16 21:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-16 23:10 ` yodaiken
2002-03-17 1:17 ` rddunlap
2002-03-17 3:34 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-17 14:52 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-03-17 21:00 ` yodaiken
2002-03-19 12:06 ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-19 21:12 ` yodaiken
2002-03-19 22:09 ` Chris Friesen
2002-03-19 22:15 ` yodaiken
2002-03-20 4:25 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-03-17 2:50 ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-03-17 3:43 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-17 4:12 ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-03-17 4:31 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-16 20:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-16 20:22 ` Andi Kleen
2002-03-19 4:34 ` Rusty Russell
2002-03-16 20:36 ` Richard Gooch
2002-03-16 20:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-16 20:51 ` Richard Gooch
2002-03-17 13:23 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-17 18:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-17 23:01 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-03-18 0:53 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-18 1:13 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-03-18 1:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-18 1:56 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-03-18 1:40 ` Mike Fedyk
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2002-03-24 21:12 ` Rogier Wolff
2002-03-24 21:35 ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-24 22:54 ` Nick Craig-Wood
2002-03-24 23:41 ` Andi Kleen
2002-03-25 6:40 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-29 13:44 Possible GPL Violation of Linux in Amstrad's E3 Videophone Ralph Corderoy
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2004-10-01 14:20 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-01 15:59 ` Ralph Corderoy
2004-10-01 16:00 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-01 16:24 ` Jon Masters
2004-10-01 15:59 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-01 17:18 ` Jon Masters
2005-01-07 21:48 ` Jonathan McDowell
2005-01-15 13:43 ` Jonathan McDowell
2005-01-26 16:47 ` Jonathan McDowell
2004-10-01 17:24 ` Tigran Aivazian
2004-10-01 16:14 ` James Courtier-Dutton
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-03-13 8:52 10.31 second kernel compile Anton Blanchard
2002-03-13 14:44 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-03-13 21:44 ` [Lse-tech] " Dave Hansen
2002-03-14 1:07 ` Keith Owens
2002-03-14 11:27 ` Anton Blanchard
2002-03-14 13:16 ` [Lse-tech] " Dipankar Sarma
2002-03-14 13:21 ` Momchil Velikov
2002-03-14 18:33 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-15 12:16 ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-03-16 5:12 ` Anton Blanchard
2002-03-15 18:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-16 11:55 ` Paul Mackerras
2002-03-16 17:25 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-16 17:57 ` yodaiken
2002-03-16 18:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-16 18:35 ` yodaiken
2002-03-16 18:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-16 18:57 ` yodaiken
2002-03-16 19:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-16 19:43 ` David Mosberger
2002-03-16 19:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-16 20:08 ` yodaiken
2002-03-16 20:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-16 20:36 ` David Mosberger
2002-03-16 20:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-17 1:09 ` Paul Mackerras
2002-03-17 2:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-16 19:53 ` yodaiken
2002-03-16 20:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-16 20:25 ` yodaiken
2002-03-27 1:07 ` Richard Henderson
2002-03-16 20:53 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-18 3:07 ` David S. Miller
2002-03-16 15:24 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-16 19:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-16 22:25 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-19 16:35 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-03-14 19:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-19 16:40 ` Bill Davidsen
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2001-12-21 20:31 ` Benjamin LaHaise
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2001-12-21 20:47 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-21 21:00 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-12-21 21:06 ` Rik van Riel
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2001-12-21 21:33 ` Thomas Dodd
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2001-12-21 21:03 ` Benjamin LaHaise
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2001-12-23 9:40 ` Rob Landley
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2001-09-23 2:26 ` [PATCH] tty canonical mode: nicer erase behaviour zefram
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2001-05-10 14:42 ` Daniel Phillips
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2001-05-09 14:14 ` Hans Reiser
2001-05-10 11:44 ` Matthias Andree
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2001-05-11 9:42 ` Hans Reiser
2001-05-11 16:04 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-11 10:21 ` Hans Reiser
2001-05-11 17:47 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-11 11:00 ` [reiserfs-dev] " Hans Reiser
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2001-05-11 19:04 ` Chris Mason
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2001-05-11 19:51 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-10 23:37 ` Matthias Andree
2001-05-11 14:56 ` Tony Hoyle
2001-05-11 8:42 ` Hans Reiser
2001-05-11 15:56 ` Matthias Andree
2001-05-11 16:47 ` Tony Hoyle
2001-05-11 16:53 ` Matthias Andree
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2001-04-21 17:04 ` Francois Romieu
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2001-04-24 8:38 ` Markus Schaber
2001-04-24 13:51 ` Alan Cox
2001-04-24 14:08 ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2001-04-24 14:35 ` Alan Cox
2001-04-22 2:51 ` Horst von Brand
2001-04-22 10:54 ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2001-04-21 20:23 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-04-21 20:29 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-22 2:56 ` Horst von Brand
2001-04-21 20:34 ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-21 20:46 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-21 21:11 ` Francois Romieu
2001-04-21 21:20 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-21 22:30 ` Francois Romieu
2001-04-21 22:35 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-21 23:29 ` Alan Cox
2001-04-21 23:49 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-22 16:02 ` Jes Sorensen
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2001-04-22 1:00 ` Jonathan Morton
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2001-04-22 9:43 ` Ben Ford
2001-04-22 9:33 ` Olaf Titz
2001-04-24 6:28 ` Anuradha Ratnaweera
2001-04-21 23:09 ` Alan Cox
2001-04-21 23:47 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-22 0:02 ` Alan Cox
2001-04-22 3:39 ` Eric S. Raymond
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2001-04-22 3:31 ` Horst von Brand
2001-04-22 3:46 ` Eric S. Raymond
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2001-04-22 2:28 ` Horst von Brand
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2001-04-22 11:39 ` Francois Romieu
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