From: Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Andre Hedrick <andre@linux-ide.org>,
Wakko Warner <wakko@animx.eu.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: IDE and hot-swap disk caddies
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 00:53:39 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020328005339.A22155@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020326185238.A324@toy.ucw.cz> <E16qM41-0006HG-00@the-village.bc.nu> <20020327222900.GO19837@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 11:29:00PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
>
>
> > > > You can paint a goose yellow and call it a duck, but it is still a goose.
> > > > The electrical/electronic interface will kill you!
> > >
> > > USB mass storage is not SCSI (in some cases), either. [Ouch, and some
> > > usb-storage devices *are* IDE.]
> > >
> > > So it makes sense to view IDE as very odd SCSI controllers.
> >
> > IDE is very different. Its like calling NFS Netware. The upper layer
> > behaviour is fairly similar, and both ATAPI and USB mass storage is SCSI
> > alike (note if its not SCSI like its not USB mass storage its something else
> > eg a vendor specific driver).
>
> I have seen USB mass storage devices with ide connector on them, so it
> is certainly possible to translate between scsi and ide. If it makes
> sense from performance standpoint.... I don't know.
That's between SCSI and ATAPI, which are mostly the same on command
level. ATA (IDE), which is used for harddrives is older, and different.
--
Vojtech Pavlik
SuSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-03-27 23:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-03-25 9:32 IDE and hot-swap disk caddies John Summerfield
2002-03-25 15:56 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-25 19:34 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-03-25 19:55 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-25 20:26 ` Wakko Warner
2002-03-25 21:20 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-25 22:32 ` Wakko Warner
2002-03-26 0:11 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-03-26 18:52 ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-27 22:38 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-27 22:29 ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-27 22:47 ` Pedro M. Rodrigues
2002-03-27 23:21 ` Jos Hulzink
2002-03-28 11:37 ` Jos Hulzink
2002-03-27 22:51 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-28 0:01 ` Itai Nahshon
2002-03-28 0:11 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-27 23:53 ` Vojtech Pavlik [this message]
2002-03-25 23:16 ` John Summerfield
2002-03-26 3:32 ` Mark Lord
2002-03-26 5:28 ` Jeremy Jackson
2002-03-26 8:21 ` DE " jw schultz
2002-03-26 19:01 ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-27 22:34 ` jw schultz
2002-03-27 23:17 ` Jos Hulzink
2002-03-27 23:57 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-28 0:17 ` Erik Andersen
2002-03-28 0:23 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-28 0:31 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-03-28 0:40 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-28 2:02 ` IDE " Jeremy Jackson
2002-03-28 9:33 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-28 9:28 ` Simon Richter
2002-03-28 16:25 ` Jeremy Jackson
2002-03-28 9:33 ` DE " Jos Hulzink
2002-03-28 0:37 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-28 0:27 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-28 4:24 ` Chuck Campbell
2002-03-28 4:32 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-28 8:00 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-28 8:21 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-28 9:01 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-28 9:39 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-28 9:50 ` Offtopic: " Jos Hulzink
2002-03-28 9:53 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-28 18:31 ` Herman Oosthuysen
2002-03-28 9:29 ` Jos Hulzink
2002-03-26 22:53 ` IDE " John Summerfield
2002-03-28 16:46 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-03-28 18:10 ` Mark Lord
2002-03-28 20:59 ` John Summerfield
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0203252353380.25706-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
2002-03-26 23:59 ` John Summerfield
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0203271134090.28872-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
2002-03-31 13:01 ` John Summerfield
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