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From: Tracy R Reed <treed@ultraviolet.org>
To: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
Cc: matthew@psychohorse.com, reiserfs-list@namesys.com
Subject: Re: Silly question, defrag
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 16:45:45 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020403164545.B21821@ultraviolet.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3CAB48E5.9050001@namesys.com>; from reiser@namesys.com on Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 10:24:37PM +0400

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On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 10:24:37PM +0400, Hans Reiser wrote:
> There are ways in which Windows is better than Linux.  This is one.  To 
> think that Linux is better for not having defrag is wishful innacurate 
> thinking.  Such is life.  Send us $30k and defrag will go into v4.0 
> instead of 4.1.:)

I have to wonder about your motives here, Hans. You are the one who stands
to gain by capitalizing on newbie Unix/Linux users misunderstanding of
filesystems based on their experience with DOS and Windows and here you
are promoting defrag as a feature which puts your FS above others. They
have learned to compulsively defrag their disks once a week and you are
looking to feed their addiction. I think reiserfs is really great and a
defrag/repacker will be nice but the above strikes me as a bit strange.
How long has ext2 been around as the stock Linux filesystem?  More than
long enough for people to have realized whether a defragger would be
useful. Yet I can't think of a single distribution (of Linux or Unix in
general) that comes with a defragger. Stephen Tweedie wrote one for it but
nobody bothers to use it or even to include it with their distro.

Please don't perpetuate the idea that good filesystems have/need a
defragger.

-- 
Tracy Reed      http://www.ultraviolet.org
"She moves in mysterious ways"

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-04-04  0:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200204030017.12595@X-Message-Flag:>
2002-04-03  8:21 ` Silly question, defrag Joe Cooper
2002-04-03  8:25   ` Hans Reiser
2002-04-03 16:14     ` Matthew Johnson
     [not found]     ` <200204030808.26186@X-Message-Flag:>
2002-04-03 18:28       ` Hans Reiser
2002-04-03 16:08   ` Matthew Johnson
     [not found]   ` <200204030740.05950@X-Message-Flag:>
2002-04-03 18:24     ` Hans Reiser
2002-04-03 19:33       ` matthew johnson
2002-04-04  0:45       ` Tracy R Reed [this message]
2002-04-04  1:42         ` rod
2002-04-04  5:19           ` The Amazing Dragon
     [not found]       ` <20020404161547.GD3990@jensbenecke.de>
2002-04-05  0:04         ` rod
2002-04-07  4:52       ` The Doctor What
2002-04-03 20:30     ` Ross Vandegrift
2002-04-03 20:37       ` Richard Thornton
2002-04-03 20:44         ` Hans Reiser
2002-04-03 23:49     ` Tracy R Reed
2002-04-04  1:58       ` Manuel Krause
2002-04-04  9:16       ` Anders Widman
2002-04-04 18:54         ` Tracy R Reed
2002-04-04 19:09           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2002-04-04 19:20           ` Anders Widman
2002-04-04 22:18           ` Rodd Zurcher
2002-04-04 22:34           ` Benjamin Scott
2002-04-05  5:31             ` Ross Vandegrift
2002-04-05  6:19               ` Anders Widman
2002-04-05 13:50               ` Benjamin Scott
2002-04-05 15:07                 ` Hans Reiser
2002-04-05  8:49           ` Hans Reiser
2002-04-05 13:50             ` Benjamin Scott
2002-04-05 14:04               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2002-04-05 14:20                 ` Benjamin Scott
2002-04-05 15:13                 ` Hans Reiser
2002-04-05 13:53             ` Stefan Fleiter
2002-04-05 18:56               ` Chris Dukes
2002-04-05 22:33                 ` Stefan Fleiter
2002-04-03 18:31   ` Anders Widman
2002-04-03 18:47     ` Yura Umanets
2002-04-03 21:41       ` Anders Widman
2002-04-03  8:20 Matthew Johnson

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