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From: Muli Ben-Yehuda <mulix@actcom.co.il>
To: John Levon <movement@marcelothewonderpenguin.com>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	"Steven N. Hirsch" <shirsch@adelphia.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Two fixes for 2.4.19-pre5-ac3
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 22:55:04 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020407225504.Z10733@actcom.co.il> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020407173343.GA18940@compsoc.man.ac.uk> <E16uIf7-0006Zw-00@the-village.bc.nu> <20020407194114.GA21800@compsoc.man.ac.uk>

On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 08:41:14PM +0100, John Levon wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 08:49:17PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> 
> > Removing it in the -ac tree is a good way to stimulate discussion
> 
> OK
> 
> > fixing the code that relies on it (except for the 99% of code relying on it
> > which is cracker authored trojans)
> 
> No doubt, but it's not much harder to look at nm vmlinux or System.map,
> so I don't see the security angle...
> 
> I'd be happy to bear the brunt of users moaning at me because they now
> have to apply a kernel patch (and I have to maintain it ...), iff there
> was some strongly technical reason the code has to change.

I'd like to second that. syscalltrack (http://syscalltrack.sf.net)
hijacks syscall entries in the sys_call_table as well, because we
want it to work as a module and not require patching the kernel. Our
solution to the module unload race on syscall de-hijacking is simple,
splitting the system call hijacking code into a single small module
which once loaded cannot be unloaded.

So please keep the sys_call_table exported and marked as "ugh, not
portable and racy, please dont hijack system calls unless you really
have to" unless there's a strongly technical reason otherwise. Our
users (all 7 of them) will appreciate it ;)
-- 
The ill-formed Orange
Fails to satisfy the eye:       http://vipe.technion.ac.il/~mulix/
Segmentation fault.             http://syscalltrack.sf.net/

  reply	other threads:[~2002-04-07 19:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-04-07 16:43 Two fixes for 2.4.19-pre5-ac3 Steven N. Hirsch
2002-04-07 17:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-04-07 17:14   ` arjan
2002-04-07 17:42 ` Alan Cox
2002-04-07 17:27   ` arjan
2002-04-07 17:48     ` Alexander Viro
2002-04-07 17:33   ` John Levon
2002-04-07 19:18     ` Alan Cox
2002-04-07 19:23       ` John Levon
2002-04-07 19:42         ` Alan Cox
2002-04-07 19:32           ` John Levon
2002-04-07 19:58             ` Alan Cox
2002-04-07 19:40       ` Jan Harkes
2002-04-07 20:01         ` Alan Cox
2002-04-07 20:13           ` Jan Harkes
2002-04-07 19:49     ` Alan Cox
2002-04-07 19:41       ` John Levon
2002-04-07 19:55         ` Muli Ben-Yehuda [this message]
2002-04-07 20:29           ` Alan Cox
2002-04-07 20:23             ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2002-04-07 20:51               ` Alan Cox
2002-04-07 23:03               ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-04-08  6:27                 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2002-04-07 20:02         ` Alan Cox
2002-04-07 20:10         ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-04-07 23:06           ` John Levon
2002-04-07 19:44       ` Steven N. Hirsch
2002-04-08 14:48     ` Bill Davidsen
2002-04-08 16:06       ` Philippe Elie
2002-04-08 17:53         ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-04-08 18:07           ` John Levon
2002-04-07 23:31   ` Erik Tews
     [not found] <20020407193245.GA21570@compsoc.man.ac.uk.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <E16uIoN-0006b3-00@the-village.bc.nu.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2002-04-07 21:34   ` Andi Kleen

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