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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
To: Martin Dalecki <dalecki@evision-ventures.com>
Cc: Miles Lane <miles@megapathdsl.net>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 2.5.9 -- OOPS in IDE code (symbolic dump and boot log included)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 11:54:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020423095459.GB810@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1019549894.1450.41.camel@turbulence.megapathdsl.net> <3CC51494.8040309@evision-ventures.com> <20020423091809.GM810@suse.de> <3CC51EA7.5040801@evision-ventures.com>

On Tue, Apr 23 2002, Martin Dalecki wrote:
> >Martin,
> >
> >There are several 'issues' with the ide-cd changes, in fact I think they
> >are horrible. I'll take part of the blame for that, I'll explain.
> 
> Well... I refer you to my change long, where I indeed admitted directly
> that it's an ugly band aid ;-).

Didn't read that :)

> >The ata_ar_get() doesn't belong inside the do_request() strategies, the
> >reason I did that for ide-disk was to get going on the tcq stuff and not
> >spend too much time rewriting the ide request handling at that point. It
> 
> Right. it belongs one level up. The request handling should
> possible learn whatever it it's handling ATA or ATAPI devices.
> In esp. the ide_start_dma() changes where no pretty...

Why would you care what type of transport they use??

> >was _never_ meant to propagate into the other ide drivers, and in fact
> >the code in ide-disk has several tcq specific parts that really cannot
> >work in ide-cd. Such as (ide-cd.c:ide_cdrom_do_request()):
> >
> >	spin_lock...
> >
> >	ar = ata_ar_get()
> >	if (!ar) {
> >		spin_unlock;
> >		return ide_started;
> >	}
> >	...
> >
> >ide-disk guarentees that if ata_ar_get() fails, it's because we have
> >some pending commands on the drive. The ide_started is bogus too, in
> >this context it really should be ide_didnt_start_jack, but it works for
> >ide-disk because of the above assumptions.
> 
> Fortunately it can't happen becouse the other devices don't
> support TCQ.

Right, it should rather be a bug trigger in ide-cd... Doesn't matter, it
will be killed soon.

> >I'd suggest moving the ata_ar_get() at the ide_queue_commands() level,
> >and just pass { drive, ar } to the do_request() strategies. That's also
> >why ide-disk.c:idedisk_do_request() has this comment:
> 
> Yes this was my intention for the future. The only driver which will have
> problems with this is ide-scsi.c - it's not obvious (at least right now)
> to me how to change the do_request signature there.

How so? Even with pusing ar at the level discussed here, ide-xx.c does
really not need to care. Change the do_request() strategy to just take
the drive and ar, driver is free to just:

	/* something to this effect */
	struct request *rq = ar->ar_rq;
	sector_t block = ar->ar_block;

and the rest could remain unchanged. It's up to the driver how far it
wants to take this. The only "problem" is that rq->special will always
contain the pointer to the ar used, so none of them can touch it.

> >	/*
> >	 * get a new command (push ar further down to avoid grabbing
> >	 * lock here
> >	 */
> >	spin_lock_irqsave(DRIVE_LOCK(drive), flags);
> >
> >	ar = ata_ar_get(drive);
> >	...
> >
> >I've been meaning to do this once tcq settled down, just didn't get
> >around to it yet. But please don't start moving stuff like this into
> >ide-cd too.
> 
> You notice that I didn't even care to change the write request code-path?
> BTW.> It became obvious to me as well that even all the drivers out
> there not supporting TCQ will have to get the TCQ parts of struct ata_device
> initialized - with a trivial queue depth. drive->tcq should therefore be 
> really just a memmber of struct ata_device()..

I disagree, there's no need to have a ->tcq if you don't support
queueing. The "trivial queue depth" is already done, it's called
drive->queue_depth and is 1 for non-tcq (or tcq with depth 1 :-).

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2002-04-23  9:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-04-23  8:18 2.5.9 -- OOPS in IDE code (symbolic dump and boot log included) Miles Lane
2002-04-23  8:00 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-04-23  9:18   ` Jens Axboe
2002-04-23  8:43     ` Martin Dalecki
2002-04-23  9:54       ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2002-04-23 17:39   ` Miles Lane
2002-04-23 17:54     ` Miles Lane
2002-04-24  8:06       ` Martin Dalecki
2002-04-24  9:11         ` Jens Axboe
2002-04-24  8:20           ` Martin Dalecki
2002-04-25 11:07           ` Martin Dalecki
2002-04-25 17:25             ` Jens Axboe
2002-04-25 17:34               ` Jens Axboe
2002-04-25 21:02                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-04-26  7:33                   ` [PATCH] 2.5.10 UTS_VERSION Martin Dalecki
2002-04-26  9:52                     ` Keith Owens
2002-04-26  8:58                       ` Martin Dalecki
2002-04-26  7:41                   ` [PATCH] 2.5.10 IDE 42 Martin Dalecki
2002-04-26 16:09                     ` Pavel Machek
2002-04-26 17:31                       ` Dave Jones
2002-04-26 17:37                       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-04-26 20:05                         ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-04-26 21:34                           ` Martin Dalecki
2002-04-26 22:25                           ` Martin Dalecki
2002-04-26 21:32                         ` Martin Dalecki
2002-04-26 23:21                           ` Rene Rebe
2002-04-26 21:42                       ` Martin Dalecki
2002-04-26 16:10                     ` Sebastian Droege
2002-04-26 21:28                       ` Martin Dalecki
2002-04-26 22:44                         ` Padraig Brady
2002-04-28  9:18                           ` Kai Henningsen
2002-05-05 15:54                   ` [PATCH] 2.5.13 IDE 52 Martin Dalecki
2002-05-05 17:09                     ` Jens Axboe
2002-05-05 16:16                       ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-05 15:55                   ` [PATCH] 2.5.13 IDE 53 Martin Dalecki
2002-05-06  9:53                     ` Russell King
2002-05-06  8:55                       ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-06 23:48                         ` jw schultz
2002-05-05 15:56                   ` [PATCH 2.5.13 IDE 54 Martin Dalecki
2002-05-07 12:52                     ` Paul Mackerras
2002-05-07 12:06                       ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-07 14:40                         ` benh
2002-05-07 13:40                           ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-07 15:18                             ` benh
2002-05-07 14:07                       ` Alan Cox
2002-05-07 13:24                         ` Martin Dalecki
2002-04-24  9:29         ` 2.5.9 -- OOPS in IDE code (symbolic dump and boot log included) Luigi Genoni
2002-04-23 18:23   ` Melchior FRANZ
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-04-24  0:56 rwhron
2002-04-24  8:15 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-04-24 13:01   ` Melchior FRANZ
2002-04-24 13:30 rwhron
2002-04-24 13:33 ` Jens Axboe
2002-04-24 13:39   ` Martin Dalecki
2002-04-24 14:01 rwhron
2002-04-24 13:45 ` Martin Dalecki

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