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From: "Jakob Østergaard" <jakob@unthought.net>
To: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: RAID-6 support in kernel?
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 12:53:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020605125341.E31741@unthought.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020605075701.GD2541@colombina.comedia.it>; from bluca@comedia.it on Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 09:57:01AM +0200

On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 09:57:01AM +0200, Luca Berra wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 10:20:53PM +0200, Jakob Østergaard wrote:
> > What often happens (in my experience) is, that a number of disks build up bad
> > blocks.  One day, you hit one of those bad blocks, and that one disk is kicked
> > from the array.
> > 
> > When you re-sync, you *will* hit the remaining bad blocks on the other disks,
> > causing the array to fail completely.
> > 
> > Using hot-spares will "automate" this failure - meaning that an administrator
> > may not be anywhere near the system when this total failure happens.
> > 
> > Not using hot-spares is less "automatic" in the lucky case where everything
> > works, but it also assures that an administrator actually is near the system
> > when the total failure is likely to occur.
> well, what we could do to prevent this. if you don't have or trust S.M.A.R.T.

I have and use SMART, and because of my experiences with it I do not trust it  :)

> is having a 'consistency check' function in md, that would read from all disks
> and even compare data or calculate parity for raid5, it could be scheduled
> to run periodically with a very very low priority.

This definitely belongs in user-space.  But you are right, and I've discussed
it with colleagues before as well - it would be a good thing to have such a
tool.

In root's crontab you could easily just put a 'dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/null' and
so on for all your drives.   No need for kernel extensions here...

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  reply	other threads:[~2002-06-05 10:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-06-02 23:01 RAID-6 support in kernel? Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2002-06-02 23:01 ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2002-06-03  0:33 ` Derek Vadala
2002-06-03  8:24   ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2002-06-03  8:24     ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2002-06-03  9:25     ` Derek Vadala
2002-06-03  9:31       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-06-03 14:52         ` Kasper Dupont
2002-06-03 14:52           ` Kasper Dupont
2002-06-03 14:55           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-06-04 12:49           ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2002-06-04 15:49         ` Pavel Machek
2002-06-04 15:49         ` Pavel Machek
2002-06-04 22:27           ` Kasper Dupont
2002-06-05  9:36             ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2002-06-05  9:36             ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2002-06-04 22:27           ` Kasper Dupont
2002-06-05  9:28           ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2002-06-04 15:49         ` Pavel Machek
2002-06-05  2:51         ` jw schultz
2002-06-03 17:33       ` Gregory Leblanc
2002-06-03 19:53         ` Ross Vandegrift
2002-06-04 20:20         ` Jakob Østergaard
2002-06-05  7:57           ` Luca Berra
2002-06-05 10:53             ` Jakob Østergaard [this message]
2002-06-05 19:42               ` Luca Berra
2002-06-05 21:25                 ` background scanning for media defects (was Re: RAID-6 support in kernel?) Friedrich Lobenstock
2002-06-03  9:25     ` RAID-6 support in kernel? Derek Vadala
2002-06-04 18:50   ` Bill Davidsen
2002-06-04 18:50   ` Bill Davidsen
2002-06-06  1:19     ` Derek Vadala
2002-06-06  8:28       ` Kasper Dupont
2002-06-06  8:28         ` Kasper Dupont
2002-06-06 11:57         ` Helge Hafting
2002-06-03  7:35 ` Kasper Dupont
2002-06-03  8:28   ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2002-06-03  8:57     ` Kasper Dupont
2002-06-04 11:11       ` Allan Sandfeld
2002-06-04 12:51         ` Kasper Dupont
2002-06-04 13:58           ` Allan Sandfeld
2002-06-12  8:13             ` Kasper Dupont

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