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From: Guillaume Morin <guillaume@morinfr.org>
To: netfilter-devel@lists.samba.org
Subject: Re: Security flaw in Stateful filtering ??????
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 20:36:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020607183600.GD630@morinfr.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3D00CDB4.3060605@cs.auc.dk>

Hi Emmanuel,

Dans un message du 07 Jun à 17:13, Emmanuel Fleury écrivait :
> >The documentation is correct because it means
> >the connection in the conntrack sense NOT in the TCP sense.
> 
> I disagree on this point. The documentation is not correct.
> 
> Or, at least, the documentation is not precise enough to figure out
> this particular point (and this can lead the users to have some flaws
> in their firewall).

The documentation is correct because it assumes you understand
"connection" as a conntrack entry. I do agree that it should be 
more explicit.

> The funny thing is that if you have a bad ruleset, you can easily be
> DOSed by some external people which are just sending random ACK packets.
> 
> Those ACKs will create entries in your connection table as ESTABLISHED
> connections with a time-out of.... 5 days !!!!! 8-)

Well no, since the concerned box will reply with a RST.

-- 
Guillaume Morin <guillaume@morinfr.org>

              Why critize what you don't understand ? (Sepultura)

  reply	other threads:[~2002-06-07 18:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20020606220914.A14542@groar.org>
2002-06-06 23:31 ` Security flaw in Stateful filtering ?????? Rusty Russell
2002-06-06 23:52   ` Joerg Mayer
2002-06-07  2:10     ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-07  2:53       ` Joerg Mayer
2002-06-07 12:45         ` Marcus Sundberg
2002-06-07 14:36       ` Henrik Nordstrom
2002-06-07 21:48     ` Ben Reser
2002-06-07  8:15   ` Emmanuel Fleury
2002-06-07  8:50     ` Oskar Andreasson
2002-06-07 12:27       ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2002-06-10  8:04         ` Oskar Andreasson
2002-06-10  8:26           ` Emmanuel Fleury
2002-06-12  9:23           ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2002-06-07  9:05     ` Henrik Nordstrom
2002-06-07  9:31       ` Emmanuel Fleury
2002-06-07  9:41         ` Oskar Andreasson
2002-06-07  9:43         ` Guillaume Morin
2002-06-07  9:57           ` Emmanuel Fleury
2002-06-07 10:17             ` Guillaume Morin
2002-06-07 11:30               ` Emmanuel Fleury
2002-06-07 13:33                 ` Guillaume Morin
2002-06-07 15:13                   ` Emmanuel Fleury
2002-06-07 18:36                     ` Guillaume Morin [this message]
2002-06-07 19:00                       ` Patrick Schaaf
2002-06-08  2:06                         ` Emmanuel Fleury
2002-06-08  8:21                           ` Patrick Schaaf
2002-06-08 12:02                             ` Henrik Nordstrom
2002-06-09  7:03                               ` Emmanuel Fleury
2002-06-09  8:29                                 ` Patrick Schaaf
2002-06-08  1:42                       ` Emmanuel Fleury
2002-06-07 10:17             ` Henrik Nordstrom
2002-06-07 10:11         ` Henrik Nordstrom
2002-06-07 22:02     ` Ben Reser
2002-06-08  2:13       ` Emmanuel Fleury
2002-06-08  8:23         ` Patrick Schaaf
2002-06-08 16:41         ` Ben Reser
2002-06-08  9:07       ` ACK is NEW: Conclusion ? (was:Re: Security flaw in Stateful filtering ??????) Emmanuel Fleury
2002-06-07  9:42 Security flaw in Stateful filtering ?????? Mikkel Christiansen
2002-06-08  7:44 ` Harald Welte
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-06-06 22:15 Andy Whitcroft
2002-06-06 19:29 Sneppe Filip
2002-06-06 17:21 Emmanuel Fleury
2002-06-06 17:48 ` Martin Josefsson
2002-06-06 17:54 ` Maciej Soltysiak
2002-06-06 18:52   ` Emmanuel Fleury
2002-06-06 19:11     ` Maciej Soltysiak
2002-06-06 19:30     ` Guillaume Morin
2002-06-06 19:53       ` Patrick Schaaf
2002-06-06 19:43     ` Henrik Nordstrom
2002-06-06 17:57 ` Patrick Schaaf
2002-06-06 18:34   ` Emmanuel Fleury
2002-06-06 19:12     ` Patrick Schaaf
2002-06-06 19:28       ` Emmanuel Fleury
2002-06-06 19:27     ` Henrik Nordstrom
2002-06-06 20:50       ` Emmanuel Fleury
2002-06-06 21:26         ` Henrik Nordstrom

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