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From: Werner Almesberger <wa@almesberger.net>
To: "Kevin O'Connor" <kevin@koconnor.net>
Cc: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>, Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [OKS] Module removal
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:37:22 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020708233722.R1424@almesberger.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020708215011.A2592@arizona.localdomain>; from kevin@koconnor.net on Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 09:50:11PM -0400

Kevin O'Connor wrote:
> I think the above works, but the locking is a bit hairy.  How about the
> following.  (Taxonomy 3)

Looks like an efficient and almost correct implementation of this,
yes.

One bug: you should use yield() instead of schedule() (2.5) or do
	current->policy |= SCHED_YIELD;
before calling schedule (2.4). Or play it extra-safe and use a
traditional wait queue, even though this has more overhead.

> I get the feeling you already had something like this in mind, but your
> example above was rather complicated.  The latter implementation is just
> standard reference counting.

Yup, my example was simply an approximation of the current module
code, with the obvious races fixed.

> With a standard reference counting implementation I don't see any of these
> issues being a problem..

Amazing, isn't it ? :-)

> Did I miss something?

I see two possible reasons why somebody may not want this solution:

 - those wishing to squeeze the very last bit of performance out of
   this may find holding the spin lock during the call a better
   compromise than the reference counting
 - in some cases, there could be a lock that's being held by the
   caller of foo_deregister and that's also needed by
   bar_whatever_op. In this case, you have to drop the lock while
   waiting (or re-think the locking design).

- Werner

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  reply	other threads:[~2002-07-09  2:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-01 20:21 RE2: [OKS] Module removal Michael Nguyen
2002-07-02  1:40 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-02  2:25   ` Keith Owens
2002-07-02  3:11     ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-02  3:42       ` Keith Owens
2002-07-02  4:11         ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-02 22:23         ` Alexander Viro
2002-07-09 19:23         ` Russ Lewis
2002-07-02  4:08     ` Brian Gerst
2002-07-02  4:53       ` Keith Owens
2002-07-02  5:43         ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-02 16:36           ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-02 16:50             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-07-02 18:05               ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-03  3:50               ` Pavel Machek
2002-07-04  4:11             ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-04  6:29               ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-04  6:50                 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-07 21:09                   ` Jamie Lokier
2002-07-07 21:41                     ` Oliver Neukum
2002-07-08  0:31                       ` Jamie Lokier
2002-07-08  6:42                         ` Oliver Neukum
2002-07-08  0:18                     ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-08  0:46                       ` Jamie Lokier
2002-07-08  6:22                         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-08 10:16                           ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-09  0:07                         ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-09  0:27                           ` Keith Owens
2002-07-09  3:09                             ` Werner Almesberger
2002-07-09  6:25                             ` Roman Zippel
2002-07-09  8:59                               ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-07-09 11:06                                 ` Roman Zippel
2002-07-04 12:29                 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-09  1:50                 ` Kevin O'Connor
2002-07-09  2:37                   ` Werner Almesberger [this message]
2002-07-02 23:35         ` Alexander Viro
2002-07-02 22:41       ` RE2: " Alexander Viro
2002-07-02  8:52     ` Helge Hafting
2002-07-02 16:22       ` Werner Almesberger
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-07-02 12:20 Ariel Garcia
2002-07-01 17:48 Bill Davidsen
2002-07-01 18:35 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-01 18:42 ` Jose Luis Domingo Lopez
2002-07-01 18:45   ` Shawn
2002-07-01 19:57 ` Diego Calleja
2002-07-01 20:03   ` Diego Calleja
2002-07-01 22:20   ` Jose Luis Domingo Lopez
2002-07-01 22:56   ` Ryan Anderson
2002-07-02 11:37 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-07-02 12:04   ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-02 13:13     ` jlnance
2002-07-02 15:20   ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-02 15:53     ` Jonathan Corbet
2002-07-02 16:07       ` Oliver Neukum
2002-07-02 17:48         ` Tom Rini
2002-07-02 18:10           ` Oliver Neukum
2002-07-02 21:50             ` Ryan Anderson
2002-07-03 22:26               ` Diego Calleja
2002-07-04  0:00                 ` Keith Owens
2002-07-04  8:04               ` Helge Hafting
2002-07-02 16:08     ` Werner Almesberger
     [not found]   ` <Pine.LNX.3.95.1020702075957.24872A-100000@chaos.analogic.c om>
2002-07-04  8:36     ` Mike Galbraith
2002-07-03  0:09 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-07-12 21:51 ` David Lang

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