From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
Cc: Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@redhat.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-aio@kvack.org
Subject: Re: async-io API registration for 2.5.29
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 03:32:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020731013238.GJ1181@dualathlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L.0207302219400.23404-100000@imladris.surriel.com>
On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 10:20:51PM -0300, Rik van Riel wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 08:49:39AM -0400, Benjamin LaHaise wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 07:41:11AM +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
>
> > > What would you suggest as an alternative API? The main point of multiplexing
> > > is that ios can be submitted in batches, which can't be done if the ios are
> > > submitted via individual syscalls, not to mention the overlap with the posix
> > > aio api.
> >
> > yes, sys_io_sumbit has the advantage you can mix read/write/fsync etc..
> > in the same array of iocb. But by the same argument we could as well
> > have a submit_io instead of sys_read/sys_write/sys_fsync.
>
> You can't batch synchronous requests, so your "by the same
> argument" doesn't work.
>
> Asynchronous requests, OTOH, could be submitted in large
> bundles since the app doesn't wait on each request.
disagree, merging synchronous requests would make much more sense than
merging asynchronous requests in the same syscall, it would make them
asynchronous with respect than each other without losing their global
synchronous behaviour w.r.t. userspace.
With async-io it doesn't matter at all to merge too much stuff (except to
avoid entering/exiting kernel that applies to synchronous operations
too).
Andrea
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-07-31 1:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-07-30 5:41 async-io API registration for 2.5.29 Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-30 8:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-07-30 13:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-30 13:52 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-07-30 16:43 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-30 16:59 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-07-30 19:10 ` Jeff Dike
2002-07-30 18:09 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-07-30 18:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-30 18:31 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-07-30 20:57 ` Jeff Dike
2002-07-30 20:47 ` Jeff Dike
2002-07-30 21:26 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-30 10:50 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-30 12:49 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-07-30 13:29 ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2002-07-30 21:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-30 21:54 ` [rfc] aio-core for 2.5.29 (Re: async-io API registration for 2.5.29) Benjamin LaHaise
2002-07-31 0:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-31 14:46 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-07-31 16:31 ` Charles 'Buck' Krasic
2002-08-01 10:30 ` Pavel Machek
2002-08-01 14:47 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-08-01 15:00 ` Chris Friesen
2002-08-01 16:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-01 17:30 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-01 16:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-01 16:41 ` [rfc] aio-core for 2.5.29 (Re: async-io API registration for2.5.29) Chris Friesen
2002-08-01 18:01 ` [rfc] aio-core for 2.5.29 (Re: async-io API registration for 2.5.29) Benjamin LaHaise
2002-08-15 23:54 ` aio-core why not using SuS? [Re: [rfc] aio-core for 2.5.29 (Re: async-io API registration for 2.5.29)] Andrea Arcangeli
2002-08-16 1:42 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-08-16 1:57 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-08-16 2:00 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-08-16 2:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-16 2:16 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-08-16 2:40 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-08-16 3:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-16 3:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-16 4:47 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-08-17 3:46 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-08-17 4:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-17 4:15 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-08-17 4:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-02 5:12 ` Pavel Machek
2002-08-17 5:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-17 5:24 ` lots of mem on 32 bit machines (was: aio-core why not using SuS?) Martin J. Bligh
2002-08-17 5:12 ` aio-core why not using SuS? [Re: [rfc] aio-core for 2.5.29 (Re: async-io API registration for 2.5.29)] Martin J. Bligh
2002-08-17 17:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-17 21:27 ` 32 bit arch with lots of RAM Martin J. Bligh
2002-08-22 16:30 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-08-22 16:36 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-08-22 16:15 ` aio-core why not using SuS? [Re: [rfc] aio-core for 2.5.29 (Re: async-io API registration for 2.5.29)] Andrea Arcangeli
2002-08-22 16:12 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-08-20 0:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-08-17 4:36 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-08-16 2:32 ` Rik van Riel
2002-08-16 2:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-08-16 9:39 ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2002-08-16 10:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-08-16 11:23 ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2002-08-16 11:28 ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2002-08-16 13:49 ` Dan Kegel
2002-09-02 18:40 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-09-03 12:04 ` aio-core in 2.5 - io_queue_wait and io_getevents Suparna Bhattacharya
2002-09-05 5:21 ` aio-core why not using SuS? [Re: [rfc] aio-core for 2.5.29 (Re: async-io API registration for 2.5.29)] Benjamin LaHaise
2002-08-16 13:43 ` Dan Kegel
2002-08-16 14:21 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-08-16 14:42 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-08-16 15:40 ` John Gardiner Myers
2002-08-23 16:11 ` aio-core why not using SuS? [Re: [rfc] aio-core for 2.5.29 (Re:async-io " Dan Kegel
2002-08-16 1:53 ` aio-core why not using SuS? [Re: [rfc] aio-core for 2.5.29 (Re: async-io " Dan Kegel
2002-08-01 19:18 ` [rfc] aio-core for 2.5.29 (Re: async-io API registration for 2.5.29) Chris Wedgwood
2002-08-01 19:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-01 19:31 ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-08-02 8:24 ` Pavel Machek
2002-08-02 11:59 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-02 15:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-31 1:20 ` async-io API registration for 2.5.29 Rik van Riel
2002-07-31 1:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2002-07-31 8:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-07-31 13:19 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-30 13:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-30 16:49 ` Andrea Arcangeli
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