From: Joshua MacDonald <jmacd@namesys.com>
To: Oliver Xymoron <oxymoron@waste.org>
Cc: Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@sgi.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, phillips@arcor.de, rml@tech9.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH] lock assertion macros for 2.5.30
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 16:55:05 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020808125505.GA8804@reload.namesys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0208071618290.16458-100000@waste.org>
MUST_NOT_HOLD_LOCK means exactly I_AM_NOT_HOLDING_LOCK, otherwise the
assertion is obviously meaningless because another processor could be holding
the lock. But since there is no reason to assert NO_ONE_IS_HOLDING_LOCK
(since it means the lock is unnecessary), the obvious meaning of
MUST_NOT_HOLD_LOCK is the correct one, that the current thread/CPU does not
hold the lock.
In order to implement MOST_NOT_HOLD_LOCK the spinlock must contain some record
of who holds the lock, and since the SCSI-layer apparently does not have such
a mechanism, it appears that something is broken in there.
-josh
On Wed, Aug 07, 2002 at 04:37:40PM -0500, Oliver Xymoron wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Aug 2002, Jesse Barnes wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Aug 07, 2002 at 06:02:19PM -0300, Rik van Riel wrote:
> > > On Wed, 7 Aug 2002, Jesse Barnes wrote:
> > >
> > > > +++ linux-2.5.30-lockassert/drivers/scsi/scsi.c Wed Aug 7 11:35:32 2002
> > > > @@ -262,7 +262,7 @@
> > >
> > > > + MUST_NOT_HOLD(q->queue_lock);
> > >
> > > ...
> > >
> > > > +#if defined(CONFIG_DEBUG_SPINLOCK) && defined(CONFIG_SMP)
> > > > +#define MUST_HOLD(lock) BUG_ON(!spin_is_locked(lock))
> > > > +#define MUST_NOT_HOLD(lock) BUG_ON(spin_is_locked(lock))
> > >
> > > Please tell me the MUST_NOT_HOLD thing is a joke.
> > >
> > > What is to prevent another CPU in another code path
> > > from holding this spinlock when the code you've
> > > inserted the MUST_NOT_HOLD in is on its merry way
> > > not holding the lock ?
> >
> > Nothing at all, but isn't that how the scsi ASSERT_LOCK(&lock, 0)
> > macro worked before? I could just remove all those checks in the scsi
> > code I guess.
>
> Who's to say that they actually worked? They look like crap to me.
>
> > After I posted the last patch, a few people asked for MUST_NOT_HOLD so
> > I added it back in. Do you think it's a bad idea? See the last
> > thread if you're curious (Joshua's comments in particular):
> > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=102764009400001&r=1&w=2
>
> Interesting. I'm still going to say that MUST_NOT_HOLD is wrong, at least
> in its current form/name.
>
> What MUST_HOLD is saying is "the current thread is holding this lock, go
> ahead, double check if you want". What MUST_NOT_HOLD says is "the current
> thread is not holding this lock, feel free to check". Right now the kernel
> doesn't record who grabbed a lock and the best it can do is check whether
> _anyone_ is holding the lock. In the first case, it can prove a negative
> if no one is holding the lock, in the second case it can't because it
> can't distiguish between the current task holding a lock and any other
> task holding a lock.
>
> If we want a MUST_NOT_RECURSE, we can do that, but it means adding cpu or
> current into the debugging version of spinlocks. I'd also add eip, so we
> can see where the lock was acquired last and dump that when we hit a
> conflict/deadlock.
>
> And if you interpret MUST_NOT_HOLD_LOCK to mean "no one is holding this
> lock" then you run into Rik's problem. Anyone who actually means this
> ought to be simply taking the lock, otherwise why would they care?
>
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>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-08-08 12:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-08-07 20:51 [PATCH] lock assertion macros for 2.5.30 Jesse Barnes
2002-08-07 21:02 ` Rik van Riel
2002-08-07 21:08 ` Jesse Barnes
2002-08-07 21:21 ` Rik van Riel
2002-08-07 21:39 ` Jesse Barnes
2002-08-07 21:44 ` Rik van Riel
2002-08-08 7:58 ` Marcin Dalecki
2002-08-08 11:09 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-07 22:15 ` Jesse Barnes
2002-08-07 22:19 ` Rik van Riel
2002-08-08 17:23 ` Jesse Barnes
2002-08-08 17:36 ` Rik van Riel
2002-08-08 17:39 ` Jesse Barnes
2002-08-09 2:56 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-12 21:03 ` [PATCH] lock assertion macros for 2.5.31 Jesse Barnes
[not found] ` <3D5829B9.D281B855@zip.com.au>
[not found] ` <20020812223645.GB40343@sgi.com>
[not found] ` <3D5840E9.89C8680C@zip.com.au>
2002-08-21 18:26 ` Jesse Barnes
2002-08-21 18:40 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-21 18:46 ` Jesse Barnes
2002-08-09 3:04 ` [PATCH] lock assertion macros for 2.5.30 Daniel Phillips
2002-08-09 4:12 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-08-07 22:30 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-08-07 22:41 ` Roman Zippel
2002-08-08 0:07 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-08-07 21:37 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-08-08 12:55 ` Joshua MacDonald [this message]
2002-08-08 13:23 ` Jens Axboe
2002-08-08 6:00 ` Jens Axboe
2002-08-08 17:08 ` Jesse Barnes
2002-08-08 17:31 ` Rik van Riel
2002-08-08 17:35 ` Jesse Barnes
2002-08-08 17:43 ` Joshua MacDonald
2002-08-08 17:47 ` Rik van Riel
[not found] <0C01A29FBAE24448A792F5C68F5EA47D2D4437@nasdaq.ms.ensim.com>
2002-08-08 18:52 ` Paul Menage
2002-08-08 19:00 ` Rik van Riel
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