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From: James Cleverdon <jamesclv@us.ibm.com>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>, ak@suse.de
Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	johnstul@us.ibm.com, anton.wilson@camotion.com
Subject: Re: do_gettimeofday vs. rdtsc in the scheduler
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 15:55:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200209171555.52872.jamesclv@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020917.153828.24171342.davem@redhat.com>

On Tuesday 17 September 2002 03:38 pm, David S. Miller wrote:
>    From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
>    Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 00:44:42 +0200
>
>    > I don't know how Sun and SGI manage with their larger systems.  Either
>    > they don't do clock sync, or they may have to make expensive
>    > tradeoffs.
>
>    I guess you could always run NTP between the different CPUs ;) ;)
>
> :-)
>
> More seriously, you don't need to have the cpu tick registers sync'd,
> it is the rate that matters.
>
> Once booted, you can sync these system tick registers with a pretty
> straight forward algorithm in the kernel.  Bonus points if you can
> figure out how to cancel out the cost of moving the system tick sample
> cachelines between master and slave in your algorithm :-)

Been there.  Done that.  Had the product canceled.    ;^)

The initial sync was easy, even with variable latencies on cache lines.  A 
much simplified NTP-ish algorithm works fine.  The painful thing was bus 
clock drift and programs that foolishly relied on the TSC being the same 
between CPUs and between nodes.

-- 
James Cleverdon
IBM xSeries Linux Solutions
{jamesclv(Unix, preferred), cleverdj(Notes)} at us dot ibm dot com


  reply	other threads:[~2002-09-17 22:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200209172020.g8HKKPF13227@eng2.beaverton.ibm.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <1032294559.22815.180.camel@cog.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]   ` <20020917.133933.69057655.davem@redhat.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2002-09-17 21:00     ` do_gettimeofday vs. rdtsc in the scheduler Andi Kleen
2002-09-17 20:54       ` David S. Miller
2002-09-17 21:28         ` Alan Cox
2002-09-17 21:18           ` David S. Miller
2002-09-17 22:02             ` James Cleverdon
2002-09-17 22:44               ` Andi Kleen
2002-09-17 22:38                 ` David S. Miller
2002-09-17 22:55                   ` James Cleverdon [this message]
2002-09-17 23:12                     ` David S. Miller
2002-09-17 23:32                       ` john stultz
2002-09-17 23:32                         ` David S. Miller
2002-09-17 23:52                           ` Andi Kleen
2002-09-17 23:46                             ` David S. Miller
2002-09-17 23:58                               ` Andi Kleen
2002-09-17 23:51                                 ` David S. Miller
2002-09-18  0:05                                   ` Andi Kleen
2002-09-18  1:04                                     ` James Cleverdon
2002-09-19 18:02                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-09-20 11:04                                     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-09-19 11:20                                 ` Mikael Pettersson
2002-09-19 13:27                                   ` Alan Cox
2002-09-19 13:39                                     ` Mikael Pettersson
2002-09-20 15:26                                     ` John Levon
2002-09-18  6:40               ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-09-19 18:04                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found] <200209172020.g8HKKPF13227@eng2.beaverton.ibm.com>
2002-09-17 20:29 ` Fwd: " john stultz
2002-09-17 20:39   ` David S. Miller
2002-09-17 20:57     ` john stultz
2002-09-17 20:56       ` David S. Miller
2002-09-09 22:21 anton wilson

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