From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list linux-mips); Wed, 18 Sep 2002 19:10:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from gateway-1237.mvista.com ([12.44.186.158]:54005 "EHLO orion.mvista.com") by linux-mips.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 19:10:07 +0200 Received: (from jsun@localhost) by orion.mvista.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g8IGvUM28498; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 09:57:30 -0700 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 09:57:30 -0700 From: Jun Sun To: "Kevin D. Kissell" Cc: linux-mips@linux-mips.org, jsun@mvista.com Subject: Re: [jsun@mvista.com: Re: [RFC] FPU context switch] Message-ID: <20020918095730.U17321@mvista.com> References: <20020917160425.O17321@mvista.com> <01b801c25ea7$ce074ed0$10eca8c0@grendel> <20020917171434.Q17321@mvista.com> <004101c25eef$ba035350$10eca8c0@grendel> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <004101c25eef$ba035350$10eca8c0@grendel>; from kevink@mips.com on Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 10:45:08AM +0200 Return-Path: X-Envelope-To: <"|/home/ecartis/ecartis -s linux-mips"> (uid 0) X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-mips@linux-mips.org Original-Recipient: rfc822;linux-mips@linux-mips.org X-archive-position: 239 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: linux-mips-bounce@linux-mips.org Errors-to: linux-mips-bounce@linux-mips.org X-original-sender: jsun@mvista.com Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-mips On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 10:45:08AM +0200, Kevin D. Kissell wrote: > From: "Jun Sun" > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 02:10:17AM +0200, Kevin D. Kissell wrote: > > > Are you able to test this stuff on a proper SMP > > > system, by the way? The efficiency of the code > > > that manipulates interprocessor control variables > > > can reasonably be expected to drop off a bit > > > in a system with MP cache invalidations blasting > > > left and right. > > > > Yes. I understand this effect. Solution 1), 2) > > and 3) don't really suffer from this problem because > > variables tested & manipulated are local - unless the > > process migrates which is a different problem. > > It's not a "different problem", Process migration causeing inter-processor memory access traffic (which should be one-time) belongs to scheduling issue. It is a different problem. > it's the heart of the > problem. If we weren't worried about SMP > behavior, we wouldn't be revisiting this stuff. > While (1) can obviously be done without any > global knowledge, as could something (2)-like > based on CPU-local state such as Status.CU1, > (2), (3) and (4), as you describe them, all depend > to some degree on shared multiprocessor variables > to determine whether to save or restore FP state. > 1), 2), 3) do not depend on global variables with shared access from multiple cpus. Please read again. Please note variables of "current" process do not cause inter-processor traffic and thus not belong to this category. Jun