From: Daniel Jacobowitz <dan@debian.org>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>,
kaos@ocs.com.au, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] In-kernel module loader 1/7
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 22:19:24 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020919021924.GA31417@nevyn.them.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020919020654.9B68E2C04C@lists.samba.org>
On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 11:00:23AM +1000, Rusty Russell wrote:
> In message <Pine.LNX.4.44.0209182313360.8911-100000@serv> you write:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Rusty Russell wrote:
> >
> > > I've rewritten my in-kernel module loader: this version breaks
> > > much less existing code. Basically, we go to a model of
> > > externally-controlled module refcounts with possibility of failure
> > > (ie. try_inc_mod_count, now called try_module_get()).
> >
> > You add a lot of complexity in an attempt to solve a quite simple problem.
> > I agree that the module load mechanism could be simplified, but why do you
> > want to do it in the kernel?
>
> Count the total lines of code in the kernel. It's less than it was
> before. Even for ia64, it's around the same IIRC.
>
> Now add the userspace code, and it's obviously far simpler. Not to
> mention not having to worry about problems like insmod dying between
> the two system calls...
>
> I'm all for keeping things out of the kernel, but you can take things
> too far. I was originally reluctant, but the beauty and simplicity of
> doing it in-kernel changed my mind.
I still think that the kernel has no business knowing how to parse ELF
relocation. It's just as easy to parse it in userspace; and what do
you gain from moving the complexity from userspace to kernelspace?
--
Daniel Jacobowitz
MontaVista Software Debian GNU/Linux Developer
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-09-19 2:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-09-18 2:05 [PATCH] In-kernel module loader 1/7 Rusty Russell
2002-09-18 22:59 ` Roman Zippel
2002-09-19 1:00 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-19 2:19 ` Daniel Jacobowitz [this message]
2002-09-19 3:57 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-19 10:44 ` Roman Zippel
2002-09-19 12:51 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-19 13:54 ` Roman Zippel
2002-09-19 18:38 ` Greg KH
2002-09-19 18:58 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-19 20:11 ` Greg KH
2002-09-19 20:42 ` Roman Zippel
2002-09-30 15:32 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-10-03 18:53 ` Rob Landley
2002-10-04 0:10 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-10-15 3:25 ` Rusty Russell
2002-10-15 15:28 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-10-15 23:53 ` Rusty Russell
2002-10-16 2:59 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-10-16 6:11 ` Rusty Russell
2002-10-16 17:33 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-10-16 22:48 ` Rusty Russell
2002-10-17 1:57 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-10-17 7:41 ` Rusty Russell
2002-10-17 14:49 ` Roman Zippel
2002-10-17 14:56 ` your mail Kai Germaschewski
2002-10-18 2:47 ` Rusty Russell
2002-10-18 21:50 ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-10-17 17:20 ` [RFC] change format of LSM hooks Daniel Phillips
2002-10-18 2:04 ` Rusty Russell
2002-10-17 17:25 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-10-16 8:15 ` [PATCH] In-kernel module loader 1/7 Chris Wright
2002-09-19 20:10 ` Roman Zippel
2002-09-20 1:22 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-20 4:32 ` Greg KH
2002-09-20 9:25 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-21 7:38 ` Kevin O'Connor
2002-09-22 23:31 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-19 23:44 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-20 9:32 ` Roman Zippel
2002-09-21 4:17 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-21 17:09 ` Roman Zippel
2002-09-23 0:20 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-24 10:16 ` Roman Zippel
2002-09-24 14:54 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-25 0:46 ` Roman Zippel
2002-09-25 5:50 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-25 11:36 ` Roman Zippel
2002-09-25 12:53 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-25 21:28 ` Roman Zippel
2002-09-26 1:49 ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-26 23:38 ` Roman Zippel
2002-09-27 1:11 ` Scott Murray
2002-09-27 1:34 ` Roman Zippel
2002-09-28 0:48 ` David Lang
2002-10-15 4:53 ` Rusty Russell
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