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From: "Brian F. G. Bidulock" <bidulock@openss7.org>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: export of sys_call_table
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 08:31:48 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021004083148.D18191@openss7.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20021004161123.A30109@wotan.suse.de>; from ak@suse.de on Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 04:11:23PM +0200

Andi,

On Fri, 04 Oct 2002, Andi Kleen wrote:

> > Well, for LiS, a process does not sleep on read_lock whenever write_lock
> > might be called.  This is because only invalid getpmsg/putpmsg calls
> 
> See the "userptr" argument. The only way to access it is a 
> copy_from/to_user, and that sleeps.

The invalid argument is the fd, so no copy_from/to_user can occur
while another processor spins on the write_lock().

> 
> > (wrong file descriptor) can be made during module loading and unloading.
> > No valid file descriptors exist for getpmsg/putpmsg when the module is
> > unloading (proper use of MOD_INC/DEC_USE_COUNT).  I don't see that it
> > matters that a process sleeps holding a read_lock() when it is a given
> > that the write_lock() will never be attempted while the holder of the
> > read_lock() is sleeping.
> 
> ... Just you cannot guarantee that, except for never taking the write_lock,
> which would make the whole exercise quite pointless.

Yes, it is guaranteed by module use counts.

--brian

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  reply	other threads:[~2002-10-04 14:26 UTC|newest]

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     [not found]       ` <20021004051932.A13743@openss7.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2002-10-04 13:01         ` export of sys_call_table Andi Kleen
2002-10-04 13:11           ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2002-10-04 13:15             ` Andi Kleen
2002-10-04 13:22               ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2002-10-04 14:11                 ` Andi Kleen
2002-10-04 14:31                   ` Brian F. G. Bidulock [this message]
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     [not found]           ` <mailman.1033691043.6446.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
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     [not found]                 ` <20021004133657.B17216@devserv.devel.redhat.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2002-10-04 18:14                   ` Andi Kleen
2002-10-04 18:46                     ` Alan Cox
2002-10-04 18:45                       ` Alexander Viro
2002-10-04 19:15                       ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2002-10-04 19:26                         ` Andi Kleen
2002-10-04 19:37                         ` Pete Zaitcev
2002-10-04 20:17                           ` (off-list) Mail headers (was: Re: export of sys_call_table) Sean Neakums
2002-10-04 20:33                             ` Sean Neakums
2002-10-04 19:43                         ` export of sys_call_table Robert Love
2002-10-04 22:21                         ` David S. Miller
2002-10-04 22:41                           ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2002-10-04 22:38                             ` David S. Miller
2002-10-08 22:20                               ` [PATCH] " Brian F. G. Bidulock
2002-10-08 22:27                                 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2002-10-08 23:39                                   ` David S. Miller
2002-10-08 23:18                                 ` David S. Miller
2002-10-09  0:21                                   ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2002-10-09  0:00                                 ` Robert Love
     [not found]                               ` <mailman.1034119380.19047.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2002-10-09  0:30                                 ` Pete Zaitcev
2002-10-09  0:40                                   ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2002-10-04 21:54 Mark Veltzer
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-10-03 21:39 Brian F. G. Bidulock
2002-10-03 22:02 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-03 23:06   ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2002-10-04  9:10     ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-10-04 11:19       ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2002-10-04 11:31         ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-10-04 11:55           ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2002-10-04 13:00         ` Alan Cox
2002-10-03 23:10   ` Michal Jaegermann
2002-10-04  0:32     ` Andy Pfiffer
2002-10-04  9:20       ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-10-06 14:17         ` Kasper Dupont
2003-01-03  8:28           ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-10-04 21:06   ` David S. Miller
2002-10-04 21:44     ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2002-10-12  5:43     ` Eric Blade
2002-10-03 22:14 ` Robert Love
2002-10-03 22:23   ` Robert Love
2002-10-03 22:24   ` Patrick Mochel
2002-10-03 22:15 ` Greg KH
2002-10-03 22:27   ` Dave Jones
2002-10-03 22:27     ` Robert Love
2002-10-03 22:58       ` John Levon
2002-10-03 23:10         ` Alexander Viro
2002-10-03 23:14           ` John Levon
2002-10-04  4:05         ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2002-10-04  4:46           ` Greg KH
2002-10-04  4:53             ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2002-10-03 23:35       ` Dave Jones
2002-10-03 23:50         ` John Levon
2002-10-04  0:17           ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
     [not found]           ` <mailman.1033691043.6446.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2002-10-04  4:03             ` Pete Zaitcev
2002-10-04  5:32               ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2002-10-04 11:42                 ` John Levon
2002-10-04 12:03                   ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2002-10-04 13:02                   ` Alan Cox
2002-10-04 17:36                 ` Pete Zaitcev
2002-10-05  1:39                   ` John Levon
2002-10-04 13:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-04 15:15   ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2002-10-04 15:28     ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-04 16:19       ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2002-10-04 16:25         ` Christoph Hellwig

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