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From: James Cleverdon <jamesclv@us.ibm.com>
To: James Stevenson <james@stev.org>
Cc: Gilad Ben-ossef <gilad@benyossef.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: One for the Security Guru's
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 15:39:43 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200210231539.43167.jamesclv@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1035411422.5377.11.camel@god.stev.org>

On Wednesday 23 October 2002 03:17 pm, James Stevenson wrote:
> > Be surprised:  I run "gpg --verify foo.tgz.sign foo.tgz" every time I
> > download from kernel.org.  And, "rpm --checksig *.rpm" on stuff from
> > redhat.com too.
>
> and when an attacker looks into your .bash_history see this and modifies
> gpg and rpm ?

First, I use ksh, so the kiddie is looking into the wrong history.   ;^)

Second, I'm trying to keep him/her/git out by not loading a trojaned package.  
Once the scumbag is inside your box, it's much harder to throw them out.  In 
fact, a reinstall is usually in order.

Third, if they don't do it already, I'd like kpackage, gnorpm, and similar 
tools to always check signatures before loading a package.  (And, for the GPG 
public keys used to have come with trust signatures from the installation 
CD.)  That would really help with all the newbies to *nix coming on board 
now.

PS:  If you don't trust your gpg or rpm, boot off install CD # 1, switch to a 
text console, and use the ones on the CD.  QED.    :^)

-- 
James Cleverdon
IBM xSeries Linux Solutions
{jamesclv(Unix, preferred), cleverdj(Notes)} at us dot ibm dot com


  reply	other threads:[~2002-10-23 22:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-10-23 13:02 One for the Security Guru's Robert L. Harris
2002-10-23 13:13 ` John Jasen
2002-10-23 13:20 ` Keith Owens
2002-10-24  7:56   ` Greg KH
2002-10-23 13:45 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-23 13:59   ` Gilad Ben-ossef
2002-10-23 22:14     ` James Cleverdon
2002-10-23 22:17       ` James Stevenson
2002-10-23 22:39         ` James Cleverdon [this message]
2002-10-23 22:44           ` James Stevenson
2002-10-24  6:12         ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2002-11-06 21:39       ` Florian Weimer
2002-10-23 14:57 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-10-23 17:56   ` Gerhard Mack
2002-10-24  9:38     ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
     [not found]       ` <ap8f36$8ge$1@dstl.gov.uk>
2002-10-24 10:01         ` Tony Gale
2002-10-24 16:13           ` Gerhard Mack
2002-10-24 16:39             ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-10-24 16:34               ` David Lang
2002-10-24 17:04               ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2002-10-25  9:44                 ` Henning Schmiedehausen
2002-10-25 20:52                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-10-26 10:43                     ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-10-27 10:17                       ` Rogier Wolff
2002-10-28  7:47                       ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-10-24 22:02               ` Danny Lepage
2002-10-25  9:40                 ` Henning Schmiedehausen
2002-10-24 14:23       ` Gilad Ben-ossef
2002-10-25  4:09       ` Stephen Satchell
2002-10-25 13:47         ` Stephen Frost
2002-10-26 10:38           ` Rogier Wolff
2002-10-26  9:44       ` Rogier Wolff
2002-10-26 10:46         ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-10-23 16:23 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-10-23 17:55   ` David Lang
2002-10-23 19:46     ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-10-23 22:15 ` James Stevenson
2002-10-24  9:47   ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-10-25 12:28     ` Daniel Egger
2002-10-25 15:22       ` Alex Riesen
2002-10-25 16:38       ` Stephen Satchell
2002-10-25 18:21       ` [OT] " J Sloan
2002-10-26 10:40     ` OT " Rogier Wolff
2002-10-24 10:11   ` Ville Herva
2002-10-24 11:09     ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-10-24 11:55       ` Alan Cox
2002-10-24 14:40         ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-10-24 15:36           ` Alan Cox
2002-10-24 16:46     ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-10-24  6:04 ` David Wagner
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-10-23 21:49 Hank Leininger

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